Alright, i cant stop flip flopping!
I have just about everything figured out for my z, aside from the tranny.
First i wanted the t56, they idea of 80mph at somewhere around 2000 RPM is
awesome to me, but its so expensive... or is it.
My original plan was a t-56 with the weir bellhousing...
But then, I talked to some people who suggested..
Get a t5, run it till i blow it up, take it out ( im a pro...
Even though I am running an L series motor, the setup still put down more
than 500 rwh and almost 500fpt and the T56 survived over 200 hard drag
launches on slicks before having to be rebuilt and upgraded.I am a beliver
in the T56.Plus it delivered 28mpg on the freeway @70mph at 1600rpm off
boost.
FWIW, the T-56 is heavy, but not 100 lbs heavier than the T-5. My world
class T-5 behind the 350 in my 280 Z weighed in at 85 lbs, (same weight as
the Datsun 5 speed), and Ron Tylers T-56 that he ran behind his LT-1 in his
240 Z weighed in at 135 lbs, both trannies were weighed on the same scale.
The T-5 has a slightly wider spread in gear ratios and personally, I prefer
the T-5 ratios over the ...
You might want to elaqborate on the build level of the 302 in order to
match tranny's properly.
ne of the early F-car T56's might be a better match than a later one, if
you don't go T5...
Well, Its gonna be nothing special.
Bowtie vortec heads, midrange XE, or VooDoo cam
Performer or so equal intake, smaller holley
Less than 400 horsepower.
Nothing too big
I dont want to hear, Ah, you wont break a t5 with 400hp, i dont wanna risk
it....
Make sure you give some thought to the torque curve of the motor as it
relates to the 5th or 6th gear ratio in the trans and the ratio in the
diff. The 302 is not known for it's torque, so 1500-2000 rpm @ 70 on the
interstate may be bog city. Of course, the same holds true with first gear.
Too much rear gear with the wrong motor and a t56 and you'll sound like a
tractor trailer taking off.
3:55 ...
Bog city, if thats the case, then ill slam it in 3rd, if i get into a
sticky situation, it takes about half of a second to down shift...
Too much gear?
I have a 3.42 first gear with a 3.42 rear gear in my Malibu, i think you
would descride that as a "Tractor" i love it, i do have to shift at about
10mph, but holy **** do i get there fast.
You talk about the car hookin up, and you mention that ...
QUOTE
Nothing too big
I dont want to hear, Ah, you wont break a t5 with 400hp, i dont wanna risk
it....
End of quote?
Horsepower isn?t what breaks trannies, TORQUE is what will break the
tranny. Trannies are rated in torque capacity, not HP capacity. That torque
rating is given to take into account that some of the general public will
abuse it with brutal launches. The World Class T-5 is ...
I have some first hand experience with both the T56 and the aftermarket
T5s.
The T56 I sold Tom Sumner was 145+ pounds for the tranny with aluminum
bellhousing. The T56 flywheel is truly massive and about 42# for the 93-97
models. When you add those two, you're looking at a heavy combo. The Gforce
unit we bought for Jim's car was UBBER light and very nice shifting. My
TKO600n 5 speed is about 10...
Wow Braap, and mikelly, awesome info guys, that really helps
So, Maybe yall can school me on the t-5's
Non world class = weakest t5
World Class = a litte tougher
TKO = toughest?
Is that about how it works?
Ive decieded to go against g-force, i have heard so much crap about them
lately...
I checked at D&D, they dont have prices, about how much will a a tko run?
Bog city, if thats the case, then ill slam it in 3rd, if i get into a sticky situation, it takes about half of a second to down shift... Too much gear? I have a 3.42 first gear with a 3.42 rear gear in my Malibu, i think you would descride that as a "Tractor" i love it, i do have to shift at about 10mph, but holy **** do i get there fast. You talk about the car hookin up, and you mention that the lower rpms dont make power, well,...
QUOTE Nothing too big I dont want to hear, Ah, you wont break a t5 with 400hp, i dont wanna risk it.... End of quote? Horsepower isn?t what breaks trannies, TORQUE is what will break the tranny. Trannies are rated in torque capacity, not HP capacity. That torque rating is given to take into account that some of the general public will abuse it with brutal launches. The World Class T-5 is rated from GM/BW at 325 Lbs/Ft of torque and that takes...
BRAAP, You're correct. I did some more searching and found a picture of the unit from a Camaro World Class T5 on page 12-4 of JTR's TPI/TBI Manual. It is gear driven so it's possible to replace it with a mechanical drive unit by just removing a replacing it. Wheelman
Quote: Originally Posted by Corzette A couple of reasons, the weight is one and the heads are stock on the 396 so its def just a cruiser at this point. A decent set of heads would really light her up but BB heads AFR are like 3K plus!!!! Hell I can get a entire 383 short block for that. Dont get me wromg the BBZ is awesome and has a wow factor like no other but Id rather have that gravitational pull in the pants from a 383 with less weight and...
Make sure you give some thought to the torque curve of the motor as it relates to the 5th or 6th gear ratio in the trans and the ratio in the diff. The 302 is not known for it's torque, so 1500-2000 rpm @ 70 on the interstate may be bog city. Of course, the same holds true with first gear. Too much rear gear with the wrong motor and a t56 and you'll sound like a tractor trailer taking off. 3:55 ish gears and std. t56 first would be...
A couple of reasons, the weight is one and the heads are stock on the 396 so its def just a cruiser at this point. A decent set of heads would really light her up but BB heads AFR are like 3K plus!!!! Hell I can get a entire 383 short block for that. Dont get me wromg the BBZ is awesome and has a wow factor like no other but Id rather have that gravitational pull in the pants from a 383 with less weight and a little more room in the engine...
You might want to elaqborate on the build level of the 302 in order to match tranny's properly. ne of the early F-car T56's might be a better match than a later one, if you don't go T5...
I'm interested in some opinions and comparisons too.Would it be reasonable to get a 'standard T-5,take it to a reputable trans shop,and have some of those'beefier'parts installed on the rebuild?if you had the 3 T-5's sitting in front of you,what are the telltale differences?
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