Thread: question: choice between a 996 C4S or 997?
Started 1 month, 2 weeks ago by touque
I realize this is the 996 forum, but I have been contemplating picking up a 911-variant next spring and am torn between a 996 C4S and a 997. Looking at coupes only.
My budget will be approx $40k and I would be buying this car as my daily driver. I currently own a 1968 912 and have owned 2 928's and do all the wrenching on my cars. I know the 'buy the best car you can afford' mantra, but ...
Be ready for people to tell you to buy a Turbo or a GT3 [ ZOMG! ]; lots of that going 'round these days.
Drive both?
- 997 could be CPO'd; 996 cannot
- Both have the M96 (I think)
All I have quickly off the top of my head. I love my C4S, but have not driven a 997
Can't speak to the 997's but I love my C4S, especially the wide hips. It went through a Cdn winter with snows on it and I have had 0 issues. I'm thinking of upgrading to a 996TT next year when the C4S comes off warranty. The power is intoxicating.
I think I would drive both, as Whitey suggested. The 997 has a much more refined interior, and it will have a little more horsepower. Depending on the options, it will probably have a softer ride than the 996 C4S. I prefer the look of the wide body cars myself, but you're the one buying it. Have fun with the selection process.
Oh, and... what about a 996 turbo?
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Originally Posted by redridge
I wouldnt get a 997 carrera.... get the 997 S instead. If not opt for the 996 C4S.
+1 on passing up the base 997 if possible. The S is a much better choice, IMO. However, you are probably not going to find many low mileage 997S below $40K. You might see a number with 30K+ ...
thanks guys - I have driven the C4S but not yet the 997, but of course will do. Definitely like the wide-bodied cars. Stoopid question, but I can't seem to find the rear width of a C4S vs a 997 to compare? I guess I'm an ass-man
Slight increase in HP isn't that important (wouldn't turn it down of course!). And Red, why not the standard Carrera?
Oh, and thanks for the Turbo ...
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Originally Posted by himself
+1 on passing up the base 997 if possible. The S is a much better choice, IMO. However, you are probably not going to find many low mileage 997S below $40K. You might see a number with 30K+ miles though.
Personally I would not get a 996 (C2, C4S, etc) for the same money as a 997 (S or otherwise...
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Originally Posted by touque
I am in Houston so no, don't need the 4WD at all. Plan to keep the car for a while actually - warranty would be nice as well and that means 997.
FWIW, you can get a decent aftermarket warranty for any low mileage car (including a Porsche) for $2,000-$3,000. Some have a bad ...
Quote: Originally Posted by Whitey||C4S We're arriving at the same place, just saying it differently except that you're mighty full of yourself now that you have a GT3. I'm not sure if that is in jest or a jab I'm simply trying to give some counter perspective on the C4S, since many have been all thumbs up for it. I wouldn't say those folks are "full of themselves" since they tout how great the C4S...
as I just put on the 996 board, having a higher-mileage (like 50k) 997S might be an option if it has CPO, so then comparing to the C4S might be a difference than with a base 997. Keep the opinions coming - this is great
Quote: Originally Posted by pongobaz What significantly higher maintenance costs are you talking about Dan? The 996 and 997 have very similar maintenance schedules with almost the exact same cost for the services and parts. He's comparing a 996 C4S to a 997. It's the simple 4WD vice 2WD business. More moving parts in the 996 C4S than in the 997. My front differential will never fail on my 997S because I don't have one....
Quote: Originally Posted by Stuttgart951 ...does this mean that the days of 993 v. 996 threads are officially... over? I think the only relevance to this conversation is when a 996/7 C2 driver starts whining about 2WD purity. Then it's an easy retort that if you don't drive a real 911, who cares which wheels are driven?
On the other hand I have broken a c2 transmission shaft in the past. While you can't do that on a c4 because the tork is repartitioned on four wheels and makes is softer for the car. I don't believe there is ANY difference in the maintenance cost of the two cars except maybe a quart of transmission oil and few more bolts to check ever few years...
Quote: Originally Posted by himself Keep in mind that the 996 C4S isn't "more" in many places except weight and width. The "S" only gets you something when you are talking 997s.-td Not true. I believe the 996 C4S gives you more than 997 basic Carrera: 1) Same body style and width as 996 Turbo 2) Same suspension as 996 Turbo 3) Same bigger red brakes as 996 Turbo (997 comes with "less robust 4...
Quote: Originally Posted by himself You can dress a pig in a tuxedo... Sorry, but the word "pig" as it applies to Porsches is reserved for the folks over on the Cayenne forum...
I do a tremendous amount of work with Porsche and as such I've had the opportunity to visit ALL the Porsche Centres in Canada and speak with many techs; the reliability and running costs between a 996 and a 997.1 are much the same. Yes, the service intervals have been changed from year to year (even within the 996 production years), but not significantly enough to justify your statement. The overwhelming majority of front diffs will last...
Quote: Originally Posted by AndyK Am I the only one who likes our "dated" classic Porsche interiors better than the overly modern 997 interiors? Our interiors are rounded, darker, and more like the older Porsches compared to the fake aluminum and angled dashes of the 997. Like Marc said. I think you are the only one who prefers the 996interior over the 997's. The 996 interior is just to darth vaderish for me. Especially...
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