Thread: new NJ law allowing SLEOII to carry off duty...

Well I can say I was never a special just special in my moms eyes I think.

Way to be a big baby...rather than respond to that post you take the middle school route and say "down with the class II's" with the ZZZZ's. Why dont you just admit that your wrong and move on. You sound like an 11 year old. wah wah wah wah. Your career was started as a classII if Im not mistaken. If you try to respond in a negative way to this post Im gonna reply with: I know you are but what am I, I know you are but what...

Quote: Originally Posted by OTJ612 when a class II gets killed at the mall because some a-hole he locked up last month for drunk driving wants revenge, and shot him and his family, then will you change your mind about II's carrying off duty??? In NJ this unfortunatly is probably what will have to happen to get the law changed. It took how many school shoot ups for our campus police in NJ to CONSIDER arming themselves??

this specific forum is for class 1 and 2 officers, the forum title being " Special Officers Corner  - Discussions Between Special I and II Officers"...santa can go play in his private forum if he doesnt like what is posted here...

You seem to be putting words in my mouth. I never said SPO were immature or any of the other descriptions you seem to have heard. What I did say if when municipalities try to move the ranks of Special Police Officers into those of the full time ranks and assign them the same duties, the State PBA should fight and in the past has done so. They have a use. When used outside of those parameters, the trouble starts. Towns that do so only do so in...

You have fulltimers who lose their gun on theme park rides...being fulltime doesnt make you more responsible or more grown up to handle a firearm...The human services cop who shot a dog was fulltime, should we take guns away from them?  (not intentionally bashing human services, just an example)

Yes one can work full time hours year round. The exemption is your shore resort towns that can employ as many as specials that they need for the summer months only. But getting back to the topic...Im in support of having some more guns out there for the good guys...

Quote: THAN I CHALLENGE EVERY ONE OF YOU THAT MAKES THESE ARGUMENTS TO WALK INTO YOUR CITY COUNCIL OR TOWNSHIP MANAGER AND ASK IF YOUR THAT IMPORTANT AND AS MUCH OF A COP THAN WHY ARENT YOU A FULL TIME COP BEING PAID AS ONE?    Because I live in a civil service town and was not a resident at the time of the previous list. Specials aren't always part-time seasonals.  Sometimes it's a way to retain...

  I want to be a police officer in this state and im a class II.  Class II's go through selection processes, academy, work the same roads as full timers, then one day they finally get the title as full time, pay raise, and union, etc, when there local committee says so. I know some class IIs work court only, or even the summer guys at the shore, thats one thing. some class...

Quote: Originally Posted by 41st_Class That's just wrong.  Why would they want a take-home unmarked?  Some of our Class II's have more lights and radios in their POV's than department cars have...plus their rides are nicer than our sh!tbox CVPI's.  It'd be a step down for them. LMFAO!!