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Thread: eircom ComReg bundles settlement

Started 2 months ago by Tom Young
Seems there eircom ComReg bundles settlement might be more in line with ComReg's expectations from the case. I'd personally have liked to have seen eircom getting a slap down or fine over the whole thing. The settlement agreement states ComReg will use: Net Revenue Test using average total cost - This creates a 'straight jacket' effect on eircom in my view. Other terms:...
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ninjasurfer1 replied 1 month, 4 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by Tom Young Seems there eircom ComReg bundles settlement might be more in line with ComReg's expectations from the case. I'd personally have liked to have seen eircom getting a slap down or fine over the whole thing. The settlement agreement states ComReg will use: Net Revenue Test using average ...

BurnsCarpenter replied 1 month, 3 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by ninjasurfer1 So, in essence, eircom have had to remove the bundles or increase the bundle price to customers because of this decision? Nice result!!! Comreg is there to promote competition in the market and below cost selling is anti-competitive. I'm sure if eircom started ...

bealtine replied 1 month, 3 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by BurnsCarpenter Comreg is there to promote competition in the market and below cost selling is anti-competitive. I'm sure if eircom started selling bundles at a euro a month it would go down well with the general public but comreg could hardly allow it. Which is why we have the highest ...

Tom Young replied 1 month, 3 weeks ago
I've posted here on the calls basket before. There's a component in it which is a hangover from the eircell days. F2M recovery I believe. Wasn't spotted and is extant since God knows when.

ninjasurfer1 replied 1 month, 3 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by BurnsCarpenter Comreg is there to promote competition in the market and below cost selling is anti-competitive. I'm sure if eircom started selling bundles at a euro a month it would go down well with the general public but comreg could hardly allow it. Is that why eircom is getting rid...

cgarvey replied 1 month, 3 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by ninjasurfer1 Is that why eircom is getting rid of approx 1200 staff? No, but I suspect you already know that.

ninjasurfer1 replied 1 month, 3 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by cgarvey No, but I suspect you already know that. an ex school friend of mine works there, and he said that that is the reason for the staff reduction...if they reduce costs, they can reduce their charges? Sounds a bit simplistic to me.

cgarvey replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Every owner of ericom, since it went private, has expressed an interest in reducing, dramatically, the workforce. ericom has way too many staff; even still. It's riddled with legacy union-driven civil service inefficiencies which means it can't compete effectively with newer telcos. It has happened with incumbents the world over, but most have adjusted adequately. In eircom's case, every trick in...

Steviemak replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by cgarvey It's riddled with legacy union-driven civil service inefficiencies which means it can't compete effectively with newer telcos. It has happened with incumbents the world over, but most have adjusted adequately. I don't think that is very fair - when the govt sold it in 1998 ...

watty replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
It's maybe easier to asset strip and not invest in rollouts of new technology than fight unions/ex-semistate workforce. What Venture Capitalists? None of the owners have invested. None were real venture capitalists. They all carpet bagged and ran. Mobile Phone division sold off, masts sold off recently. Almost every (or all?) takes overs leveraged rather than real investment so now Debt must ...

 

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cgarvey
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eircom ComReg bundles settlement
Published (2009-11-02 17:28:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by To_be_confirmed Eircom use excessive depreciation rates to reduce their tax bill. Yup, I believe they do. I have it in my head that other EU incumbents do to (as do many telcos). Is that wrong? I can't remember the source for that, so I'm open to correction. However, even with aggressive depreciation, it looks to me that, even with aggressive depreciation, any investment that is not on real depreciation...
To_be_confirmed
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Published (2009-11-03 11:30:00)
I understood it was not abnormal but still higher than average. And the large majority of lines would want to be a lot shorter to get to a reliable 10 mbps speed. And that applies to every country (without a fibre rollout...)
ninjasurfer1
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eircom ComReg bundles settlement
Published (2009-10-23 21:30:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by cgarvey No, but I suspect you already know that. an ex school friend of mine works there, and he said that that is the reason for the staff reduction...if they reduce costs, they can reduce their charges? Sounds a bit simplistic to me.
watty
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eircom ComReg bundles settlement...
Published (2009-11-03 22:45:00)
Hardly anyones lines in any country doe 10Mbps. < 20% You need cable or fibre, or FTTC + VDSL to ensure 10Mbps. In which case it's not harder to get 20Mbps. <5% of DSL can do 20Mbps anywhere... Approx figures. The majority of DSL can do > 3Mbps. To have 10Mbps or higher univerally DSL can't do it.
Tom Young
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eircom ComReg bundles settlement
Published (2009-10-19 22:36:00)
I've posted here on the calls basket before. There's a component in it which is a hangover from the eircell days. F2M recovery I believe. Wasn't spotted and is extant since God knows when.
BurnsCarpenter
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eircom ComReg bundles settlement
Published (2009-10-19 19:25:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by ninjasurfer1 So, in essence, eircom have had to remove the bundles or increase the bundle price to customers because of this decision? Nice result!!! Comreg is there to promote competition in the market and below cost selling is anti-competitive. I'm sure if eircom started selling bundles at a euro a month it would go down well with the general public but comreg could hardly allow it.
bealtine
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eircom ComReg bundles settlement
Published (2009-10-19 22:09:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by BurnsCarpenter Comreg is there to promote competition in the market and below cost selling is anti-competitive. I'm sure if eircom started selling bundles at a euro a month it would go down well with the general public but comreg could hardly allow it. Which is why we have the highest line rental and the highest calls basket on the planet. They'd have been better off making eircom charge all the operators...
Steviemak
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eircom ComReg bundles settlement
Published (2009-10-29 22:43:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by cgarvey It's riddled with legacy union-driven civil service inefficiencies which means it can't compete effectively with newer telcos. It has happened with incumbents the world over, but most have adjusted adequately. I don't think that is very fair - when the govt sold it in 1998 eircom had 14,500 employees. It now has less than 6000 - soon to be reduced to 4,800. I'd like to see the current...
Sponge Bob
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eircom ComReg bundles settlement...
Published (2009-11-03 11:06:00)
Irish line lengths are not abnormal and you are correct about the access network investment in 2007/2008 . Shame this has largely stopped . Line lengths compared below ( 3 year old data) , we may have disimproved _relatively_ because other countries such as the UK have carried on investing since. http://www.comreg.ie/_fileupload/pub...ons/PDanon.pdf

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