I am trying to learn some things. I am a bit confused about test track free skate track qualifying, non qualifying. I am on the site for usfsa and found a chart http://www.usfigureskating.org/content/FlowChart.p df but is this qualifying or non qualifying. The site is large and I just feel like I am clicking in circles!
The chart you've linked to says "non-qualifying" at the top. I think this is because they're showing all the levels that might be offered at a regular club (non-qualifying) competition. Juvenile is the lowest level offered at qualifying competitions. The first qualifying competition of the season is Regionals. Skaters advance from there to Junior Nationals (Juvenile and Intermediate levels) ...
helps yes
Why would a skater chose the test over the balanced, if they are both non qualifying?
So nothing is qualifying before Juvenile, so does it matter which track you chose?
"Sandbagging" occurs at a great extent in the lower levels - preliminary free requires a flip as the most difficult jump on the test, but competitors may be doing axels and lutzes, and even axel/combos in their competitive programs.
Test track allows skaters to compete at a newly passed level without the frustration of coming up against kids doing axel combos. It levels the playing ice.
ok
Don't the skaters get a deduction for each element they skate that is above the level? I read that in a cometition enrollment form. Or is that because it is a test track competition?
Thanks for being patient.
In the well-balanced track, the only restrictions on elements are requirements of not going higher than a certain jump, or including certain jumps in the program. For example, preliminary allows two different types of double jumps (though the test requires at its highest a flip jump) and pre-juvenile allows (I think) 4 types of double jumps. Spins are not restricted.
In test track, only the...
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"Sandbagging" occurs at a great extent in the lower levels - preliminary free requires a flip as the most difficult jump on the test, but competitors may be doing axels and lutzes, and even axel/combos in their competitive programs.
Test track allows skaters to compete at a newly passed level ...
wow.
So to me it seems test track is a curriculum and you study what is in your grade level and show competence in only up to that level. Kind of like getting a 100 on a school test But the well balanced has the curriculum but you get "extra credit" if you can do a couple of higher elements. Kind of like getting a 105 on a school test. But a skater does not compete at the higher level ...
"Grading" is a good way to look at it. ISI competitions are similar to the Test Track competitions with the restrictions on elements.
I always teach my students to think of "skating against the book" as a grade - you have to get an "A" against the perfect scoring competitor in order to win first place.
You're describing two different events at a Basic Skills competition. Skaters can enter an "Elements" event, where they demonstrate a list of elements for their level. Sometimes this is done by the judge calling each element (go out and show me a whatever), but can also be a short program with no music (which is how I've more commonly seen it done). It's equivalent to the compulsory events at ...
yes, everything everyone said is true. But please know there are tons of comps that offer pre pre no axle, even limited prelim with no doubles ect.People get all worked up if a pre pre doesnt have an axle , and there are comps that dont require that jump.Even at regionals, there are pre pre no axles offered.
I would just take it one step at a time :}
Quote: Originally Posted by icedancer2 Those were most likely basic skills tests or tests in the Learn to Skate program - it is very confusing actually. "The" tests come after that, when the skater is taking private lessons - this is what everyone is talking about when they say "test track" vs. "competitive track"-- You can tell her that all of the skaters she sees on TV started in the...
Quote: Originally Posted by momof3chicks Actually, they have it at most competitions around here (test track), at least the open ones. And yes they wear dresses etc just like any other. But they dont offer it at all comps.Maybe where you live.I know none in our state and I dont think many even in the Northwest region. I dont know where the op lives but she really doesnt need to worry right now about test track vs well balanced programs yet.:}
You're describing two different events at a Basic Skills competition. Skaters can enter an "Elements" event, where they demonstrate a list of elements for their level. Sometimes this is done by the judge calling each element (go out and show me a whatever), but can also be a short program with no music (which is how I've more commonly seen it done). It's equivalent to the compulsory events at higher levels....
"Sandbagging" occurs at a great extent in the lower levels - preliminary free requires a flip as the most difficult jump on the test, but competitors may be doing axels and lutzes, and even axel/combos in their competitive programs. Test track allows skaters to compete at a newly passed level without the frustration of coming up against kids doing axel combos. It levels the playing ice.
In the well-balanced track, the only restrictions on elements are requirements of not going higher than a certain jump, or including certain jumps in the program. For example, preliminary allows two different types of double jumps (though the test requires at its highest a flip jump) and pre-juvenile allows (I think) 4 types of double jumps. Spins are not restricted. In test track, only the elements on the test (or sometimes slightly higher)...
"Grading" is a good way to look at it. ISI competitions are similar to the Test Track competitions with the restrictions on elements. I always teach my students to think of "skating against the book" as a grade - you have to get an "A" against the perfect scoring competitor in order to win first place.
Quote: Originally Posted by falen I guess I got a little ahead of myself. In her first 2 sessions, they had a "test" at the end to move up. I guess that is not "the" tests. Those were most likely basic skills tests or tests in the Learn to Skate program - it is very confusing actually. "The" tests come after that, when the skater is taking private lessons - this is what everyone is talking...
Quote: Originally Posted by falen yes basic skills. Her coach is really excited about putting her in a local competition so I started really reading up on it over the past few days. DD gave her some music and she liked it all for her. She is skating less than a year and has only completed 2 group sessions, is on her third group session and since she really is into it, I started privates too. I hope it not too soon for that . I guess I got a...
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