Thread: different orthotics stiffness for winter and summer
Started 1 month, 3 weeks ago by m weber
Had a patient in before with 3 "different" devices for everyday use, running and sking.
He got a bit confused when I asked what the differences were as they looked the same to me and felt the same to him anyway... Having moved from a more constant climate of OZ. To the less stable climate of Sweden there is a call for two different stiffness of orthotics for warm and cold activities ?
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Originally Posted by m weber
Had a patient in before with 3 "different" devices for everyday use, running and sking.
He got a bit confused when I asked what the differences were as they looked the same to me and felt the same to him anyway... Having moved from a more constant climate of OZ. To the less stable climate of ...
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Originally Posted by Simon Spooner
As we don't fully understand the significance of orthoses stiffness yet it difficult to give a definitive answer. However, I would assume that the variation in "working" temperature at the foot- orthosis interface would have minimal effect.
ok I might do an experiement ...
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Originally Posted by m weber
ok I might do an experiement when /if we get a really cold day with a pair of running shoes and therometer go out walking and measure the temp under my orthotics and report back
Measure external temperature, then measure temperature of orthosis at foot-orthosis interface ...
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Originally Posted by Simon Spooner
Measure external temperature, then measure temperature of orthosis at foot-orthosis interface during given activity in extremes of temperature. Then show temperature effects of any recorded differences on load-deformation of orthoses. THEN, show effects of any variation in load-deformation ...
Sounds like you are inventing a solution for a problem that does not really exist.... I'm happy to support the idea that different acitivities may require different orthoses shape or materials......but not temperature, the homeostatic nature of human bodies......frost bite etc the actual temp range inside the footwear is not that large and a ten or 20 deg effect on the materials is going to be ...
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Originally Posted by pgcarter
Sounds like you are inventing a solution for a problem that does not really exist.... I'm happy to support the idea that different acitivities may require different orthoses shape or materials......but not temperature, the homeostatic nature of human bodies......frost bite etc the actual temp ...
Here you go Michael
http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retri...03999301922 348
http://www.actapress.com/Abstract.aspx?paperId=326 64
http://www.chinaleather.org/download/2-6/2-218.pdf
Thanks for the reading Simon.
Clearly as you and Phil said there will be a rise but nothing that will have a major effect on device stiffness. The china leather article talked about 6 degee which then become stabil after a short time. Nothing to consider.
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Originally Posted by m weber
Had a patient in before with 3 "different" devices for everyday use, running and sking.
He got a bit confused when I asked what the differences were as they looked the same to me and felt the same to him anyway... Having moved from a more constant climate of OZ. To the less stable climate of ...
I tend to think that if the temp really got to -20 deg C inside a boot for very long the foot itself would not be doing too well, it would not be just the orthotic going rigid......... and even then the change from normal room temp is only 40 deg or so, when I did a little research project on hysteresis, elastic vs permanent change, on rubber bands even at 90 deg C. you could demonstrate an ...
Thanks for the reading Simon. Clearly as you and Phil said there will be a rise but nothing that will have a major effect on device stiffness. The china leather article talked about 6 degee which then become stabil after a short time. Nothing to consider.
Here you go Michael http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retri...03999301922348 http://www.actapress.com/Abstract.aspx?paperId=32664 http://www.chinaleather.org/download/2-6/2-218.pdf
I tend to think that if the temp really got to -20 deg C inside a boot for very long the foot itself would not be doing too well, it would not be just the orthotic going rigid......... and even then the change from normal room temp is only 40 deg or so, when I did a little research project on hysteresis, elastic vs permanent change, on rubber bands even at 90 deg C. you could demonstrate an effect....but only a small one, so a forty deg change...
Quote: Originally Posted by m weber Had a patient in before with 3 "different" devices for everyday use, running and sking. He got a bit confused when I asked what the differences were as they looked the same to me and felt the same to him anyway... Having moved from a more constant climate of OZ. To the less stable climate of Sweden there is a call for two different stiffness of orthotics for warm and cold activities ? Yes...
Quote: Originally Posted by m weber Had a patient in before with 3 "different" devices for everyday use, running and sking. He got a bit confused when I asked what the differences were as they looked the same to me and felt the same to him anyway... Having moved from a more constant climate of OZ. To the less stable climate of Sweden there is a call for two different stiffness of orthotics for warm and cold activities ? Yes...
O-Ton des einheimischen Kollegen der SNG: "This is... O-Ton des einheimischen Kollegen der SNG: "This is winter. Summer is not hot. It is HELL." Froh, im Winter hier zu sein. Heute nur 36 Grad.
1:25 AM Oct 21st from web
O-Ton des einheimischen Kollegen der SNG: "This is... O-Ton des einheimischen Kollegen der SNG: "This is winter. Summer is not hot. It is HELL." Froh, im Winter hier zu sein. Heute nur 36 Grad. 1:25 AM Oct 21st, 2008 from web
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