Thread: difference between BO 3.1 enterprise and edge
Started 4 months, 1 week ago by priyanka1410
Hi,
A bit confused - what is Business Objects EDGE? It looks like a subset of the Enterise release. Somebody told me that it is the new brand name for BOXI 3.1 series...
Edge is a scaled down version of BOE, and is targeted to small to medium size businesses. You can read about it here . It allows one server (No cluster) only. _________________ Michael Welter, BOCP-BOE, Webi Image link
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Edge is a scaled down version of BOE, and is targeted to small to medium size businesses. You can read about it here . It allows one server (No cluster) only.
Sorry this is a slightly older post but I cannot seem to find the answer to a similar question..
I see all the product information about Edge everywhere on SAP's site.. however I cannot find a side by side comparison of Edge vs Enterprise. They do a good job of comparing the various Edge flavors against each other but not against it's other products.
What I am really concerned ...
From a practical standpoint, most functional differences are due to the fact that SAP releases Service Packs for Edge, 8 - 10 months behind when they are released for Enterprise. So, any new features included in the Service Pack, will be available in Enterprise long before Edge. _________________ Michael Welter, BOCP-BOE, Webi Image link
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So it seems the difference is mainly the frequency of the service pack release. But like JPetlev mentioned could someone throw light on functionality and scalabilty issues
Also it said that Edge is for Mid size and Exterprise for large companies.
If the company is a large one and they decide to buy Edge with probably 100 concurrent user license, what is it they would be loosing on
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There are also functional differences. For example, an Edge environment can only have one CMS, so no clustering is allowed. Edge cannot use Federation. These are examples. Check with your BO sales rep for a complete list.
meenaj wrote: If the company is a large one and they decide to buy Edge with probably 100 concurrent user license, what is it they would be loosing on
They wouldn't be able to purchase Edge with 100 concurrent licenses. Edge is limited to a maximum of 20 or 25 (I forget the exact number) of concurrent licenses. Also, since Edge is limited to a single server ...
The reality is the Edge is just a licensing issue. The software is the same. Since it's targeted towards small companies, there is not really a need for the extra stuff.
Reporting functionality is identical to the regular product. It's really an infrastructure limitation.
tmarion wrote: They wouldn't be able to purchase Edge with 100 concurrent licenses. Edge is limited to a maximum of 20 or 25
Apparently SAP is now selling Edge with up to 100 user licenses. Not sure if they're named or concurrent, but it's starting to be quite a good deal to go with Edge.
Only thing is that you can't scale the servers over multiple servers ...
I'd be shocked if it was 100 concurrent. 100 concurrent users could be the equivalent of 1000 users.
We 2200 users and we're all in the US. We have lots of traffic, but we rarely have more than 250 concurrent users.
Antremons wrote: Regarding licences: No, you do not have to pay extra fee for Xcelsius or Crystal, because the default package of BOE Edge conists of: SAP BO (Enterprise Premium env. minus Clustering\Replication Serices\Federation) + Xcelsius + 2 lic. of Crystal reports (developer lic) at least in EMEA we have such lic. model. Xcelsius\Crystal are seperate installs, also the keycode should be different for each software thanks...do I have to...
MichM3 wrote: thanks Mark P, so if I understand correctly, in Edge one can choose/define the required modules as well, just like in Enterprise. How can I see that Xcelsius is in the product? Where I am now, I find a lot of "Xcelsius" related stuff on the server when I perform a search but I don't see any "Xcelsius" link in the BOXI program list, nor in Infoview... we use XI3.1 Edge. Just to clarify, at least what...
MichM3 wrote: thanks Mark P, so if I understand correctly, in Edge one can choose/define the required modules as well, just like in Enterprise. How can I see that Xcelsius is in the product? Where I am now, I find a lot of "Xcelsius" related stuff on the server when I perform a search but I don't see any "Xcelsius" link in the BOXI program list, nor in Infoview... we use XI3.1 Edge. Xcelsius was a separate install...
No, you do not have to add that Xcelius keycode in CMC-> Licences. In CMC you have to add the keycodes realted to BO, for example, additional BO Edge CAL\NUL licences or Voyager keycode. You will be prompted for the Xcelius keycode when you install Xcelsius. As mentioned before Xcelsius is seperate installation, with different keycode.
There are also functional differences. For example, an Edge environment can only have one CMS, so no clustering is allowed. Edge cannot use Federation. These are examples. Check with your BO sales rep for a complete list.
MichM3 wrote: I agree it all comes down to the license key which defines your product... but regarding updates, would it be possible then to upgrade an Enterprise installation running an Edge key (so an Edge in fact) with a FP for Edge? While the software is the same, keys are not interchangeable. You cannot upgrade an Edge environment to Enterprise. You have to reinstall. So, I'm sure what you are suggesting is a bad idea.
Steve Krandel wrote: While the software is the same, keys are not interchangeable. You cannot upgrade an Edge environment to Enterprise. You have to reinstall. So, I'm sure what you are suggesting is a bad idea. Edge to Enterprise upgrade is a new install on separate hardware, then migrate your content over using the Import Wizard. The only thing you gain from Enterprise is clustering and fail-over...and since Enterprise does not offer...
Quote: However the sales reps 'seem' like they really do not like to recommend Edge as they keep talking about 'future plans' and how limiting Edge can be. Well, they are trying to get you to go to enterprise... The main limiting factors you have already described, along with limited patch support - they arrive later. Future plans? LCM (most sensibly placed on a seperate box) or maybe the inclusion of data federator, in...
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MJRBIM wrote: ...The only thing you gain from Enterprise is clustering and fail-over.....! The only thing, huh? Well, I consider scaling & fail-over capabilities a definitive must for any enterprise application On the other side, I wish SAP BOE EDGE would be just a licensing/license key issue, meaning, one should be able to install SAP BOE EDGE first, then when deciding to purchase BOE Enterprise later one would have to apply only the...
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