Thread: dems unveil their healthcare bill

Cinabre wrote: That's true, but it wouldn't allow them to expand the Federal Government by creating the 100+ bureaucricies contained in the bill. Stop making me more depressed.

Except you don't understand what really happened. The system under which games receive classification is broken. There's no rating for R, which meant it had to be refused classification. That will likely be fixed at some point. Sure, you have issue with it because it's "censorship", but it exists everywhere, even over there. You don't like how it's applied here and that's fine but as a society we...

I understand the problem. To you it's not a big deal because you live in it and such minor things seem natural. Nowhere did I say the US is perfect in its handling of similar issues. I abhor it over here too. You asked for Australian examples, and I gave you the most recent one I've read. Stifling free thought or expression in general (in appropriate media) is a Bad Thing. For as much as I don't believe in sin, I see it as the...

If someone further to the left of her opposed her, then she'd have some serious competition. Her district is even more liberal than she is. I guess if they had the funding available, we might see some form of competition arise, but you're right in the fact that it would be political suicide outside of your district.

Klark wrote: Cinabre wrote: Once again, it comes back to paying for the entirety of the bill. They have to set the minimum that high in order to generate enough revenue to pay for all of the subsidies they'll be giving to those that fall below "x" threshold. But, the prices I quoted were federal-plan prices. They could just buy plans for the unemployed through the FEHB and save money. If they use premiums to pay for...

The poisonous animals, brutal interior and vegimite is offset by the fact that Austrialian women are more likely to give it up on the first date. i have yet to see any evidence that contradicts the statement that the women are poisonous as well.

JFC that will spike the cost of my health insurance.

actual bill: http://docs.house.gov/rules/health/111_ahcaa.pdf Article http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/10/29/health.care/index.html selective quoting: The nearly 2,000 page bill -- a combination of three different versions passed by House committees -- would cost $894 billion over 10 years and extend insurance coverage to 36 million uncovered Americans, according to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. It guarantees that 96 percent of Americans have...

I would be comedy--if they weren't so likely to pass this monstrosity.

i'm in favor of universal baseline health coverage for every citizen and this whole plan scares the hell out of me. the fact that they had to railroad senators into doing it by adding more and more pork to get the sigs is just sickening. time to find my own island (with modern conveniences, power, water, etc. of course).