The debate over wind farms versus nuclear power stations, it seems they are both a eyesore if one is near where you live, but one of them also has the potential to kill everyone living anywhere near it if something goes wrong and being a target for terrorists.
I've always lived within a few miles of a nuclear power station and it has never bothered me. How big would a windfarm have to be to give out the same power as a nuclear station and what effect would that have on the weather?
quote: Originally posted by Bacchus: I've always lived within a few miles of a nuclear power station and it has never bothered me. How big would a windfarm have to be to give out the same power as a nuclear station and what effect would that have on the weather? I live near a very dodgy power station and it troubles me deeply. I should not have to move, it should. Conversely, on the hills...
quote: Originally posted by Bacchus: I've always lived within a few miles of a nuclear power station and it has never bothered me. How big would a windfarm have to be to give out the same power as a nuclear station and what effect would that have on the weather? Work it oot on your six fingers.
quote: Originally posted by weefatshug: quote: Originally posted by Bacchus: I've always lived within a few miles of a nuclear power station and it has never bothered me. How big would a windfarm have to be to give out the same power as a nuclear station and what effect would that have on the weather? Work it oot on your six fingers. From a quick search on google you would need ...
quote: Originally posted by Bacchus: quote: Originally posted by weefatshug: quote: Originally posted by Bacchus: I've always lived within a few miles of a nuclear power station and it has never bothered me. How big would a windfarm have to be to give out the same power as a nuclear station and what effect would that have on the weather? Work it oot on your six fingers. From a quick...
quote: Originally posted by Bacchus: From a quick search on google you would need approximatly 370 sq km of wind turbines to produce the same output as a single nuclear power station but that would only produce the same output on a windy day. Don't forget that that Nuke station costs Ten Billion whilst the wind farm's cost is one billion. Whilst Torness Nuclear station produces only 1,250 ...
quote: Originally posted by Zabbs: quote: Originally posted by Bacchus: From a quick search on google you would need approximatly 370 sq km of wind turbines to produce the same output as a single nuclear power station but that would only produce the same output on a windy day. Don't forget that that Nuke station costs Ten Billion whilst the wind farm's cost is one billion. Whilst Torness...
quote: Originally posted by Zabbs: Don't forget that that Nuke station costs Ten Billion whilst the wind farm's cost is one billion. Whilst Torness Nuclear station produces only 1,250 MWs, Britain's windfarms produce only 2,120.98 whilst German wind farms produce 134,500 MWs and it will take ten years to build another Nuke station. Meanwhile we will be dependent on Wind power but Tidal, Wave, ...
quote: Originally posted by Bacchus: quote: Originally posted by Zabbs: Don't forget that that Nuke station costs Ten Billion whilst the wind farm's cost is one billion. Whilst Torness Nuclear station produces only 1,250 MWs, Britain's windfarms produce only 2,120.98 whilst German wind farms produce 134,500 MWs and it will take ten years to build another Nuke station. Meanwhile we will be ...
quote: Originally posted by weefatshug: How can anything nuclear be described as clean and reliable after chernobyl and 3 mile island?If we need lots of wind farms let's get building them noo,as well as hydro electric like the Loch Sloy one in Argyll.I say no tae nuclear anything. Chernobyl and 3 mile island were fision not fusion.
Well there is not really any waste because if you think about it all you are doing is taking a radioactive uranium ore and concentrating it and then changing it into something else which is radioactive and then putting it back in the ground!
quote: Originally posted by Baron von Lotsov.: So is falling out of an aeroplane but the d'mb asses still use them when they want a holiday! Oh and all that radiation from the sun, best pack a Geiger counter for the next trip don't you think. Also watch out for the radioactive rocks and the radon gas seeping through your floorboards. So do you mind if we bury the nuclear subs in Rosyth in your garden then baron seeing as how...
quote: Originally posted by Baron von Lotsov.: As I was saying earlier there is a difference between types of radiation. Alpha particles can be stopped with a piece of paper whereas you need a sheet of lead to stop gamma rays. Now in addition to this there are two other important factors, one is the half life, and the other is the amount of radiation emitted by an isotope. A rule of thumb is that there is an inverse relationship between the...
quote: Originally posted by weefatshug: quote: Originally posted by Bacchus: What about the enviromental impact of wind farms? If you take the energy out of the wind it slows down which means increased temperatures across the UK and also less precipitation from the sea and therefore less rain and more droughts. Also if you reduce the speed of the wind across the UK the warm air coming from the gulf stream will not reach the nordic countries...
quote: Originally posted by Taranis: quote: Originally posted by Bacchus: What about the enviromental impact of wind farms? Dont be absurd. Compared to Nuclear they are a breeze. Unless you want your great granchildren to die of cancer aged 4...... Quick pop quiz for you: Chernobyl was the very worst kind of nuclear accident, it really couldn't have been all that much worse. How many people were killed as a result - given that 100,000s...
quote: Originally posted by Bacchus: It has been proven that wind farms decrease the speed of the wind. What are the perils of nuclear fusion? Apart from radiation in the reactor core, which only has a half life of about 100 years, the waste output is tiny compared to current generators and we know that fusion is good for the planet as it is the reason that life can exist on this rock. This must be the answer to the American hurricane belt?
quote: Originally posted by netnut: If a nuclear fusion station went bang wouldn’t it make a nuclear fission accident look like a firecracker. Neither are capable of going bang in the first place.
Anyone remember the lack of wind last christmas? Lack of sun as well. Lasted about a week. So, hook your bike up to a dynamo to watch the telly? I remember power cuts and do not want to revisit them in this day and age. I am more than happy for renewable but lets have some proper nuclear plants to back them up. Clean coal etc.
quote: the bottom line was that if one is say rated at 500w that means it will produce that power in about 25 knots of wind. Thank you for your answer. Have you managed to find any independent reports on the efficacity or otherwise of wind turbines? I tend to agree with you that criticising alternative power sources, rather like expressing doubts about global warming, is akin to heresy. That's why it would be useful to have some facts...
@ Barack Obama where is nuclear?wind farms & sun... @ Barack Obama where is nuclear?wind farms & sun cant solve this, this is going to raise d cost of energy,kill GDP can we use common sense?" 2:09 PM Jun 25th from web
RT @ aaroncahill : @ bobbyllew Areas of the UK most... RT @ aaroncahill : @ bobbyllew Areas of the UK most opposed to wind farms should be earmarked for nuclear power stations. That'll learn 'em. 3:22 AM Jul 7th from TweetDeck
@ mathewhulbert #UKIP say No to wind farms. Yes to... @ mathewhulbert #UKIP say No to wind farms. Yes to nuclear and clean coal. http://bit.ly/5LNmq for UKIP's Energy and Environment Policy
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RT @ aaroncahill Areas of the UK most opposed to wind... RT @ aaroncahill Areas of the UK most opposed to wind farms should be earmarked for nuclear power stations. That'll learn 'em. [via @ bobb
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