Thread: Why does everyone hate "socialist" healthcare here?
Started 3 months ago by len56
In Canada, works fine for me.
(nope, there aren't huge waits for doctors)
(for me)
(am I special?)
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Because we're American, land of the free and home of the brave. We prefer to pay more for mediocre results; it's our god given, hard fought right to choose which doctor we're not going to see until the chest and shooting pains down our left arm forces us to seek care . . . it's patriotic gosh darn it, nobody is going to take away our American way of dying.
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Originally Posted by len56
In Canada, works fine for me.
(nope, there aren't huge waits for doctors)
(for me)
(am I special?)
It will be interesting to see the impact the socialized medicine in the US will have on the low cost / discount Canadian Internet pharmacies.
Our problem is ...
Two years ago my evil evil evil evil... health care provider took all of two seconds to aprove my new $11,000.00 insulin pump. I am sure Obama woudl aprove it in half a second well I guess he would if I was a liberal minority on welfare.
Nothing like pissing off 85% of the population to help 5-10%. I like how he makes everyone buy healthcare even ones who can't afford it. And anyone ...
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Originally Posted by len56
...(am I special?)...
You seem to be. My relatives in Victoria, BC have nothing but horror stories about their health care. Long lines and waits (two years for a knee replacement). I'm perfectly happy with the health care I have now and anything that could upset it or cost me ...
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Originally Posted by len56
Why does everyone hate "socialist" healthcare here?
They don't like any word that begins with "socia". They think any such word or phrase - socialised, social club, social drinker, sociable, socialite ... - means Commie. These kneejerk reactions are why MG keeps having to get ...
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Originally Posted by Gullwing
Two years ago my evil evil evil evil... health care provider took all of two seconds to aprove my new $11,000.00 insulin pump. I am sure Obama woudl aprove it in half a second well I guess he would if I was a liberal minority on welfare.
Nothing like pissing off 85% of the population to ...
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Originally Posted by hkmb
...The big difference is that they don't need to worry about their pre-existing condition when they get a new job or for any other reason need to change their healthcare providers.
True but this issue can easily be handled (and is in many cases) with relatively minor legislation/...
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Originally Posted by mleskovar
True but this issue can easily be handled (and is in many cases) with relatively minor legislation/controls/agreements. Don't you think
Millions of people find that it isn't being handled. And I'd be surprised if the insurance companies would roll over and allow any ...
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Originally Posted by hkmb
Millions of people find that it isn't being handled. And I'd be surprised if the insurance companies would roll over and allow any legislation to handle it. They'd fight it legislatively, and they'd develop a similar propaganda campaign to the one they're doing now.
This one would have people ...
Quote: Originally Posted by MG If that story gets any traction then the Democrats will simply turn it to their advantage. "The insurance industry's profits are so thin in worsening economic times that they will be forced to DROP people in order to survive which would increase the number of people without insurance and disproportionately impact disadvantaged voters. The addition of several million non premium paying, high service...
Quote: If a government plan is part of the deal, "as a matter of conscience, I will not allow this bill to come to a final vote," Sen. Joe Lieberman, the Connecticut independent whose vote Democrats need to overcome a GOP filibusters, told "Fox News Sunday." Lieberman said he was concerned about new government spending the health-care legislation would entail, saying deficits have gotten gargantuan....
Quote: Originally Posted by MG I get the sense that you have a bedroom full of HelloKitties and favor penis over vagina. As I said, I'm done debating this here. But kudos to you for trying to drag the conversation into the gutter first...
Quote: Originally Posted by MG ...Instead of putting real reform at the forefront, Pelosi specifically prohibits real reform and sends a huge gift to the Trial Lawyers. Real 'change' except where it will have positive effect.
Quote: Originally Posted by Nola Right, so what I said originally was that an "opt out of everything" plan is much better, and MG just blurts out whatever it is he blurted out. Wouldn't an "opt out of everything" be the status quo though?
Quote: Originally Posted by SteveHI So, to be clear: ..... (cut so people don't have to re-read it, much as they should be forced to) All of this was great. I couldn't agree more. Quote: Originally Posted by SteveHI I'm basically done with arguing this online, too. I'll summarize my position in 3 bullet points, as you have: 1. Adequate healthcare should be a universal right in a country as wealthy and developed as ours. 2....
Quote: Originally Posted by MG Jesus Nola, I purposefully tried to be nice, and you go all asshatty. Can we call it be nice time now or do we have to start throwing crayons? It's been a tough year man... and you have a strange way of showing nice!
INSANE health insurance industry profits... actually no not really http://apnews.myway.com/article/20091025/D9BI4D6O1.html "Health insurers posted a 2.2 percent profit margin last year, placing them 35th on the Fortune 500 list of top industries. As is typical, other health sectors did much better - drugs and medical products and services were both in the top 10." "Profits barely exceeded 2 percent of revenues in...
Quote: Originally Posted by LRM1 You must be. You're the only Canadian I've ever seen that is happy with their service. All I ever hear is if your life is threatened, it's good. If it's not life threatening have fun waiting for months on end to get treatment. Try a different diet of news and information sources, you might find it enlightening. Most Canadians Happy With Their Healthcare System 80% of Canadians Happy With...
This "opt-out" provision is just one more way... This "opt-out" provision is just one more way to sell a wildly unpopular Socialist healthcare takeover and make it sound more palatable. 6:46 AM Oct 28th from web
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