First of all, most of the heirs either abdicated or signed over their rights for themselves and/or their heirs. GD Cyril was actually next in line after Alexei and Michael Alexandrovitch were executed. Other claimants were Dmitri Pavlovich and GD Nicholas Nicholaevitch, but their support was limited and the supporters gradually shifted to Cyril. Cyril's son, Vladimir, married a divorcee which...
As far as I know there are these possibilities:
1) GD Kyril became head of the IF, after him his son Vladimir and now Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna.
2) GD Kyril became head of the IF, after him his son Vladimir. As women do not have succession rights according to the Pauline laws after Maria the headship went to Prince Nicholas Romanovitch Romanov
3) GD Kyril did not succeed as ...
As far as I'm aware, Marengo, Grand Duchess Marija Vladimirovna has much support in Russia and is viewed as pretender to the throne. A clear example of this was during the reburial of the Dowager Tsarina Marija Fyodorovna in September of 2006.
Yeah I also think that Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna is viewed as the pretender and quite popular . . .
But all 4 of your ideas have merit to them . . .
There is another possibility. I belive Grand Duke Vladimir Kirillovich changed the succession law to allow females to succeed, in order for his daughter to become the next claimant and head of the family. If that change is not accepted, these interpretations are possible:
There are no male heirs, since they all have married morganatically. Therefore the line should continue through the ...
Vladimir had no right to change the House Laws, mostly because Paul created the House Laws as part of Imperial Decree making it a legal matter instead of a private one and seeing as Vladimir had no legaling standing he could not change the laws.
There are two camps.
1. Maria Vladimirovna (sometimes styled Grand Duchess, though in reality she is a Princess).
2. Prince Nicholas ...
Yes, lexi4, you hit the nail on the head. These are all good exercises for stimulation, but there is no throne. So, greed over a non-throne is a non-event.
The reality is the Romanov dynasty's reign ended definitively with Grand Duke Michael's refusal to accept the throne in 1917. At that point, the successor government of the time was invested with the sovereign powers of the Tsar and the monarchy ended. There are good arguments on both sides on the question of whether Maria Vladimirovna or Nicholas Romanovitch would be the rightful Head of the Imperial House after the death of...
Quote: Originally Posted by branchg From "The Romanovs: The Final Chapter", Robert Massie, p.265, "Cyril's mother, Grand Duchess Marie Pavlovna, a German princess from Mecklenburg-Schwerin, had insisted on remaining Lutheran when she married Cyril's father, Grand Duke Vladimir. She remained Lutheran for thirty-four years after her marriage. In 1908, she realized that, because of the illness of the little...
Quote: Originally Posted by Al_bina I think it is inaccurate to project the Georgian scenario of restoration onto Russia. From the geo-political standpoint, the above countries are absolutely different. Monarchists had a good chance for restorations during the Yeltsin's second term, when educated Russians were taken aback by his inability to govern the country. Putin's emergence as a new leader, who was determined to improve lives...
Quote: Originally Posted by COUNTESS Catherine the great was, also, not Russian. And she was brilliant. Are the Gagrin's brilliant, by chance? One needs brilliance to be accepted by the Russians. Brilliance of character, of charisma, of intellect, wit. Though were it me, I'd pass the throne by the populance is too fond of assassination. . .
Quote: Originally Posted by branchg Russia is still controlled by the former KGB and Putin is a symbol of that control. Restoring the Romanovs would simply give the current powerholders another tool to use in manipulating the people to meet their own ends. Maria has not taken a strong stance towards speaking of democracy or freedom of the press in Russia. She is only concerned with pursuing a throne, which has not gone over well with...
Quote: Originally Posted by MAfan Alexander III in 1886 stated that only the children and the paternal grandhildren of the Tsar can bear the title of Grand Duke; the other members of the Family are Princes of Russia; for example, the children of Grand Dukes Sandro and Xenia were Princes of Russia, not Grand Dukes. Ioann Konstantinovich was born a Grand Duke in 1886 but must have been stripped of it soon after. His brother Gavril born in 1887...
Quote: Originally Posted by branchg However, it seems reasonable to accept Maria Vladimirovna is, in fact, the Head of the Imperial House of Romanov by virtue of being her father's successor. Whether she would be granted the throne in the event of a restoration is entirely another matter. This has always been my opinion on the matter.
Is it true that Romanov Family Laws stated that Grand Dukes of Russia have to marry to women of equal birth, belonging to Royal Families, but these Laws state nothing about the marriages of the Princes of Russia ?
I think it is inaccurate to project the Georgian scenario of restoration onto Russia. From the geo-political standpoint, the above countries are absolutely different. Monarchists had a good chance for restorations during the Yeltsin's second term, when educated Russians were taken aback by his inability to govern the country. Putin's emergence as a new leader, who was determined to improve lives of ususal Russian as well as create...
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