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Thread: Where was all the hue and cry about mandates during the primary?

Started 2 months ago by msallied
Edited on Sun Nov-08-09 08:00 PM by msallied Did mandates suddenly stop being cool when Hillary Clinton and/or John Edwards (who both backed mandates from the very beginning) failed to become President? For the record, I never much cared for mandates. Not then or now. I don't like that people are using them as tools to either prop up or take someone down politically. ...
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ClarkUSA replied 2 months ago

boppers replied 2 months ago
One of the reasons I supported Obama's health plan was that because *unlike* Hillary's plan, coverage was optional, not required.

Lyric replied 2 months ago
The people who had "histrionics" over mandates DURING the primaries, but now are perfectly willing to defend their implementation because they no longer hate the person/people who are promoting them? Where's the outrage about THAT little snippet of hypocrisy?

msallied replied 2 months ago
And I'm disappointed to see them resurface, albeit not surprised. Apparently they're popular. And yeah, for all practicality's sake, I am required to own a car.

msallied replied 2 months ago
Sometimes the best way to go about it is to find out exactly what it's all about before dismissing it as a pile of shit. Now I have had to go back and re-examine the pros and cons of mandates because, like it or not, I will very likely end up having to live with one. Whereas in the course of selecting candidates, when things are up in the air, I think it is FAR more hypocritical to support a ...

BeatleBoot replied 2 months ago
Lately here... "To die, to sleep, To die, to sleep, Aye there's the rub! For in that sleep of death what dreams may come...." It's just a friggin' bill...imperfect...but just a bill... I am glad just "to be" (rather than "not to be") with the reversal of the pre-existing condition thing.

Garam_Masala replied 2 months ago

Oregone replied 2 months ago
Isn't that stipulated in a private, not public, mortgage contract? Is there a public mandate on home insurance when you aren't in a mortgage contract? Not as far as I am aware. Were you mandated to buy that home? Were you mandated to purchase the car that you must insure? Those are all choices. Your examples fall flat. Can you name one instance where you are forced, as an individual, by your ...

dsc replied 2 months ago
Edited on Sun Nov-08-09 10:10 PM by dsc Both Hillary and Edwards supported a public option, true. But they also both supported a public option. I have no problem with the mandate if, and only if, there is a public option to go with it. Currently that is the case with the House and might well not be with the Senate. On edit, I do have to say it is rather annoying to see my candidate ...

Kermitt Gribble replied 2 months ago
if there were a Medicare for all type option and strict regulations on private insurance. The house bill includes neither.

 

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msallied
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user's latest post:
Where was all the hue and cry...
Published (2009-11-08 20:17:00)
Sometimes the best way to go about it is to find out exactly what it's all about before dismissing it as a pile of shit. Now I have had to go back and re-examine the pros and cons of mandates because, like it or not, I will very likely end up having to live with one. Whereas in the course of selecting candidates, when things are up in the air, I think it is FAR more hypocritical to support a candidate who backs mandates and then, when...
boppers
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Where was all the hue and cry...
Published (2009-11-09 04:42:00)
I ask for two reasons: 1) A great many people who think they "require" a car do not actually need a car. 2) Using a car, for even a four block trip, has really messed up American health.
joshcryer
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Where was all the hue and cry...
Published (2009-11-09 05:25:00)
Honestly a house mandate would fucking rock. (The reason we've been renters is our credit has never been good and we have always had to live month by month.)
ClarkUSA
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Where was all the hue and cry...
Published (2009-11-08 19:59:00)
Lyric
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user's latest post:
Where was all the hue and cry...
Published (2009-11-08 20:11:00)
The people who had "histrionics" over mandates DURING the primaries, but now are perfectly willing to defend their implementation because they no longer hate the person/people who are promoting them? Where's the outrage about THAT little snippet of hypocrisy?
Garam_Masala
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Where was all the hue and cry...
Published (2009-11-08 20:33:00)
BeatleBoot
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user's latest post:
Where was all the hue and cry...
Published (2009-11-08 20:31:00)
Lately here... "To die, to sleep, To die, to sleep, Aye there's the rub! For in that sleep of death what dreams may come...." It's just a friggin' bill...imperfect...but just a bill... I am glad just "to be" (rather than "not to be") with the reversal of the pre-existing condition thing.
Oregone
1
user's latest post:
Where was all the hue and cry...
Published (2009-11-08 20:33:00)
Isn't that stipulated in a private, not public, mortgage contract? Is there a public mandate on home insurance when you aren't in a mortgage contract? Not as far as I am aware. Were you mandated to buy that home? Were you mandated to purchase the car that you must insure? Those are all choices. Your examples fall flat. Can you name one instance where you are forced, as an individual, by your government, to engage in a specific type...
dsc
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user's latest post:
Where was all the hue and cry...
Published (2009-11-08 22:06:00)
Edited on Sun Nov-08-09 10:10 PM by dsc Both Hillary and Edwards supported a public option, true. But they also both supported a public option. I have no problem with the mandate if, and only if, there is a public option to go with it. Currently that is the case with the House and might well not be with the Senate. On edit, I do have to say it is rather annoying to see my candidate beaten up in the primary for this position only to see Obama...
Kermitt Gribble
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user's latest post:
Where was all the hue and cry...
Published (2009-11-08 22:42:00)
if there were a Medicare for all type option and strict regulations on private insurance. The house bill includes neither.

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