Thread: Where was all the hue and cry about mandates during the primary?
Started 2 months ago by msallied
Edited on Sun Nov-08-09 08:00 PM by msallied
Did mandates suddenly stop being cool when Hillary Clinton and/or John Edwards (who both backed mandates from the very beginning) failed to become President? For the record, I never much cared for mandates. Not then or now. I don't like that people are using them as tools to either prop up or take someone down politically. ...
The people who had "histrionics" over mandates DURING the primaries, but now are perfectly willing to defend their implementation because they no longer hate the person/people who are promoting them? Where's the outrage about THAT little snippet of hypocrisy?
And I'm disappointed to see them resurface, albeit not surprised. Apparently they're popular. And yeah, for all practicality's sake, I am required to own a car.
Sometimes the best way to go about it is to find out exactly what it's all about before dismissing it as a pile of shit. Now I have had to go back and re-examine the pros and cons of mandates because, like it or not, I will very likely end up having to live with one. Whereas in the course of selecting candidates, when things are up in the air, I think it is FAR more hypocritical to support a ...
Lately here... "To die, to sleep, To die, to sleep, Aye there's the rub! For in that sleep of death what dreams may come...." It's just a friggin' bill...imperfect...but just a bill... I am glad just "to be" (rather than "not to be") with the reversal of the pre-existing condition thing.
Isn't that stipulated in a private, not public, mortgage contract? Is there a public mandate on home insurance when you aren't in a mortgage contract? Not as far as I am aware. Were you mandated to buy that home? Were you mandated to purchase the car that you must insure? Those are all choices. Your examples fall flat. Can you name one instance where you are forced, as an individual, by your ...
Edited on Sun Nov-08-09 10:10 PM by dsc
Both Hillary and Edwards supported a public option, true. But they also both supported a public option. I have no problem with the mandate if, and only if, there is a public option to go with it. Currently that is the case with the House and might well not be with the Senate. On edit, I do have to say it is rather annoying to see my candidate ...
Sometimes the best way to go about it is to find out exactly what it's all about before dismissing it as a pile of shit. Now I have had to go back and re-examine the pros and cons of mandates because, like it or not, I will very likely end up having to live with one. Whereas in the course of selecting candidates, when things are up in the air, I think it is FAR more hypocritical to support a candidate who backs mandates and then, when...
I ask for two reasons: 1) A great many people who think they "require" a car do not actually need a car. 2) Using a car, for even a four block trip, has really messed up American health.
Honestly a house mandate would fucking rock. (The reason we've been renters is our credit has never been good and we have always had to live month by month.)
The people who had "histrionics" over mandates DURING the primaries, but now are perfectly willing to defend their implementation because they no longer hate the person/people who are promoting them? Where's the outrage about THAT little snippet of hypocrisy?
Lately here... "To die, to sleep, To die, to sleep, Aye there's the rub! For in that sleep of death what dreams may come...." It's just a friggin' bill...imperfect...but just a bill... I am glad just "to be" (rather than "not to be") with the reversal of the pre-existing condition thing.
Isn't that stipulated in a private, not public, mortgage contract? Is there a public mandate on home insurance when you aren't in a mortgage contract? Not as far as I am aware. Were you mandated to buy that home? Were you mandated to purchase the car that you must insure? Those are all choices. Your examples fall flat. Can you name one instance where you are forced, as an individual, by your government, to engage in a specific type...
Edited on Sun Nov-08-09 10:10 PM by dsc Both Hillary and Edwards supported a public option, true. But they also both supported a public option. I have no problem with the mandate if, and only if, there is a public option to go with it. Currently that is the case with the House and might well not be with the Senate. On edit, I do have to say it is rather annoying to see my candidate beaten up in the primary for this position only to see Obama...
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