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Thread: Where is Multithread on Phenom II?

Started 1 month, 1 week ago by behrouz
HI Why amd can not make cpu with MultiThread? How about Change Quad core to dual core with Quad Thread on Phenom II 9xx? Which mean Core 1 & 2 act as First core and Core 3 & 4 act as Second core. then if amd can make it , i would call it "Phenom II 650! It's kiss ass and will be killer for Core i3!!!
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Power5 replied 1 month, 1 week ago

Oj101 replied 1 month, 1 week ago
I really really really don't follow Unless you mean hyperthreading?

imamage replied 1 month, 1 week ago
Why AMD have to ? TRUE Quad Core design is better than Dual Core with HT "emulate" Quad

Oj101 replied 1 month, 1 week ago
So he IS talking about HyperThreading?

ggdh replied 1 month, 1 week ago
Don't feed him...

Mescalamba replied 1 month, 1 week ago
Yea sure, true quad vs dual with HT, is better.. but i7 (or i9 in close future), has HT.. which makes them quite effective (at least for crunching). He tought about disguising quad core as dual core and sell it as "dual-core with HT". Which is simply stupid. i7 with HT is regular quad wich is able to use unused processor time for additional thread, hence CPU is more effectively used ...

demonkevy666 replied 1 month, 1 week ago
oh I get it. he means make one thread run threw both cores as a single flowing event. Intel has turbo mode for fast single thread.

Neuromancer replied 1 month, 1 week ago
IIRC (and I may not LOL) AMD was working on "reverse hyperthreading" Which would allow 8, 10, 12 or 50 threads to run on their processors, utilizing only idle CPU time by effectively separating software single threaded operations to be split over multiple cores. I am sure something like that will come out eventually, although we will probably see SW implementation before we see it "on ...

charged3800z24 replied 1 month, 1 week ago
AMD doesn't have the engineer time to rework Phenom for and HT like implimentation. It is smarter to fucus this time on next Arc. and make it as beastly as possible. AMD is launching a 6core for desktop soon and that will have to hold them till then. U don't see HT being that needed for normal users righ tnow. I don't need it.

demonkevy666 replied 1 month, 1 week ago
The L3 cache sorta dose this already when I run AOD with one core for stability test the other 3 somehow get at least 25-50% load, even though it set for one core. this could just be vista 64 bit though, I'll post a screen shot in a few minutes.

 

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behrouz
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user's latest post:
Where is Multithread on Phenom II?
Published (2009-11-11 23:47:00)
Guys i am very happy with this link http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...oc.aspx?i=3674 yes Bulldozer has CMT instead of SMT. Note from Anand “A major focus is going to be improving on one of AMD’s biggest weaknesses today: heavily threaded performance . Intel addresses it with Hyper Threading, AMD is throwing a bit more hardware at the problem. The dual integer clusters you may have heard of are the route AMD is...
Oj101
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user's latest post:
Where is Multithread on Phenom II?
Published (2009-11-12 00:12:00)
Wasn't that proven to be a hoax when Phenom 1 came out? Is this said hoax rekindled or is it something new?
informal
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Where is Multithread on Phenom...
Published (2009-12-04 10:11:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by Neuromancer That what I was talking about and the CMT thing mentioned above. I misunderstood it apparently though. I thought AMD was trying to work up a way to multithread single threaded apps for better performance on modern processors. IE "reverse hyperthreading" Did not realize it was just adding more "semi-cores" What you are talking about is actually really covered in BD...
Neuromancer
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Where is Multithread on Phenom...
Published (2009-12-04 09:52:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by behrouz Guys i am very happy with this link http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...oc.aspx?i=3674 yes Bulldozer has CMT instead of SMT. Note from Anand “A major focus is going to be improving on one of AMD’s biggest weaknesses today: heavily threaded performance . Intel addresses it with Hyper Threading, AMD is throwing a bit more hardware at the problem. The dual integer clusters you may have...
charged3800z24
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user's latest post:
Where is Multithread on Phenom II?
Published (2009-11-11 09:50:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by behrouz most of application are heavily optimized for dual core not quad core, if not, how many application have supported for quad core ? writing source code for supporting more core is much much much harder than you think , even for 8 core.instead more thread is better than adding core. i think 4 core with 8 thread (act as Hardware not hyperthreading because they are virtual) is better than 6 core. googling for...
demonkevy666
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user's latest post:
Where is Multithread on Phenom II?
Published (2009-11-11 08:21:00)
The L3 cache sorta dose this already when I run AOD with one core for stability test the other 3 somehow get at least 25-50% load, even though it set for one core. this could just be vista 64 bit though, I'll post a screen shot in a few minutes.
Stanley Pain
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user's latest post:
Where is Multithread on Phenom II?
Published (2009-11-11 19:47:00)
What if there are no cores, only threaded dreams? What then?
Nedjo
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user's latest post:
Where is Multithread on Phenom II?
Published (2009-11-11 12:43:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by behrouz What happens when we have dual core with true quad thread ? The link for HT that Quite Excellent is Here : http://ixbtlabs.com/articles3/cpu/ar...2009-4-p1.html so, your're saying that would be ideal for AMD to launch quad-core CPU named Athlon II X2 530 and market it as "awesome dual-core CPU with true quad threads" inteeeeReeesting
apt403
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user's latest post:
Where is Multithread on Phenom II?
Published (2009-11-11 19:51:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by Stanley Pain What if there are no cores, only threaded dreams? What then? Then you have a CPU that can divide by zero, DUH.
Mescalamba
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Where is Multithread on Phenom II?
Published (2009-11-11 07:57:00)
Yea sure, true quad vs dual with HT, is better.. but i7 (or i9 in close future), has HT.. which makes them quite effective (at least for crunching). He tought about disguising quad core as dual core and sell it as "dual-core with HT". Which is simply stupid. i7 with HT is regular quad wich is able to use unused processor time for additional thread, hence CPU is more effectively used than without that.. but its still...

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