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Thread: When an agent wants 50 pages...


Started 2 months, 3 weeks ago by ChainsawLicker
What do you do if page 50 ends in the middle of a sentence? Do you give them page 51, or let them wonder what they're missing?
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scarletpeaches replied 2 months, 3 weeks ago
Cut it off at the last complete paragraph on page 50.

ChainsawLicker replied 2 months, 3 weeks ago
Makes sense.

Cliff Face replied 2 months, 3 weeks ago
I've heard people say to cut it off at the nearest end of chapter. Like, if page 40 is the end of a chapter, and page 55 is the end of the next one, then send them 55 pages. I'm not endorsing this, as it might be overstepping some rules. Also, and this might affect where page 50 ends, I've been told to start each new chapter on a new page, regardless of how many lines are left blank on the ...

Albannach replied 2 months, 3 weeks ago
Most of them say to cut it off at the nearest logical spot. Here is a request I received for a partial from an agent at a major agency, and you'll notice the wording: I would like to consider your project, if it is still available. If it is, please email me with a Word attachment of the first 50 or so pages of the manuscript—wherever it breaks most cleanly (this is preferable). If you...

kaitie replied 2 months, 3 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliff Face I've heard people say to cut it off at the nearest end of chapter. Like, if page 40 is the end of a chapter, and page 55 is the end of the next one, then send them 55 pages. I'm not endorsing this, as it might be overstepping some rules. Also, and this might affect where page 50 ends, I've been...

Terie replied 2 months, 3 weeks ago
I've repeatedly heard editors say that if the next logical break is within a few pages, send the extra pages. Fifteen pages, for example, isn't a 'few', while three or four is, so use common sense.

Katrina S. Forest replied 2 months, 3 weeks ago
I had this issue. The chapter ended on page 51, so I send that page along with the other 50. If no chapters end anywhere near it, I just cut off at the most logical paragraph. (Hopefully something that makes the reader go, "No, I want more!") But as others said to me, if the agent reads to page 50, then odds are he/she already wants to see more anyway. Good luck!

blacbird replied 2 months, 3 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by scarletpeaches Cut it off at the last complete paragraph on page 50. And add: Then the meteor struck. caw

Paul replied 2 months, 3 weeks ago
Number page 27 twice. No one ever notices page 27.

NeuroFizz replied 2 months, 3 weeks ago
Common courtesy says you should stay close to the 50 page request, so I wouldn't go more than a page or so over. Most decisions on a partial (both positive and negative) likely will be made long before the reader gets to page 50, and another ten won't matter. On the other hand, you just may get a reader who gets pissed at those ten extra pages and tosses the manuscript, unread, into the slush ...

 

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ChainsawLicker
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When an agent wants 50 pages......
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So basically, don't be offended if the agent you reply to is hoity toity and suffering from OCD?
scarletpeaches
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I love it when people say that. Come the revolution, you may live.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Terie Agents might not need particular academic qualifications, but they absolutely must have actual agenting qualifications (including experience and contacts in the industry) to be successful. You made me think of something that I forgot to put into my previous post: knowledge of literary contract language, and of contracts in general. Contracts are long, they are wordy, and they are very, very specific. An agent...
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Quote: Originally Posted by scarletpeaches I love it when people say that. Come the revolution, you may live. I live in a household of brilliant women of advanced degrees and humbling intelligence, all of whom are happy to point me to the bathroom when too much time has passed. And as long as I don't call that big black guy Darth Yoda, I am safe here.
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Quote: Originally Posted by blacbird Adrian Monk would. And when it comes to editing, I'm like Adrian Monk. I very much dislike inattention to detail. Even worse, if I were an agent deciding on a potential client, I would very very very much dislike being gamed. Given that manuscript pagination via computer is automatic, the only way you number page 27 twice is by conscious effort. If I noted that, it would seriously piss me off. Better...
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Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Number page 27 twice. No one ever notices page 27. Adrian Monk would. And when it comes to editing, I'm like Adrian Monk. I very much dislike inattention to detail. Even worse, if I were an agent deciding on a potential client, I would very very very much dislike being gamed. Given that manuscript pagination via computer is automatic, the only way you number page 27 twice is by conscious effort. If I...
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By the way, there may be a third option, if you're only a page or so over - you can always go through your MS one last time and check for opportunities to tighten. Chop a judicious word or two out of a paragraph, and suddenly, it fits on one less line. Etc. Over 50 pages, it can add up, and the MS often reads better for it as a result.
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Quote: Originally Posted by ChaosTitan Yeah, ditto that. As for it being a test, yes, I've seen that when submitting a query letter it's important to follow submission requirements and they want to know if you've done your research. If they say "Send me the first three chapters and a synopsis and a query in the body of the email" and a person sends a query letter as an attachment, etc., then yes, that's...
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Quote: Originally Posted by LuckyH It is a test, they want disciplined authors, they’re easier to work with. If someone believes that their writing can’t be assessed without page 51, they’re likely to have other strange ideas about the whole process. Do you have a link or resource for this. I'd really like to read more about it.

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