If it had been me in the same position, someone would probably have been killed.
While many would look at this and say "Thankfully, no one was seriously hurt.", I would say that the true direct cost will be far higher, in Akron and the rest of the country.
When petty thugs, of any color or self identified group, successfully victimize innocents, it encourages an escalation on the ...
One Gun against 50 kids?? Hummm..
Here is my 1st thought..
I would say, if you pull it, you better empty it.. With that many people, there is a chance (a small chance) someone could take the gun from you (You cant shoot 15 people all coming at you at once). If you empty the clip, at least they can't use it against you and your family..
Sure if you get off the 1st shot, everyone backs ...
in Texas, you don't have to take a beating before drawing firearm
once threat is realized (50 thugs) and "fear for my life" felt.....
one can draw weapon and start shooting
but how many shots fired and how many killed may play a part in if you get charged or not!!
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Originally Posted by HootmonSccy One Gun against 50 kids?? Hummm..
Here is my 1st thought..
I would say, if you pull it, you better empty it.. With that many people, there is a chance (a small chance) someone could take the gun from you (You cant shoot 15 people all coming at you at once). If you empty the clip, at least they can't use it against you and ...
Speaking from my armchair...I'd say after the first one is hit...I don't know if they're be too many eager to be #2.
As long as they're advancing, keep pulling the trigger and hope like hell you have spare clips on ya. Quote:
Originally Posted by HootmonSccy One Gun against 50 kids?? Hummm..
Here is my 1st thought..
I would say, if you pull it, you ...
You don't have to see weapons to have a clear disparity of force situation here. Pulling out the pistol and threatening to shoot the first ones coming closer may be your only way to avoid the situation.
That's true...but really...if it got to that point, analyzing the law would be the last thing on my mind. Survival would be first. 50 people running towards you yelling and seemingly intent on doing you and yours harm....I really could give a s*$t what the law said. Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnK87 You don't have to see weapons to have a clear disparity ...
The "White Power" nut jobs will have a field day with this. What i don't get is where is Rev Jesse Jackson Or Al Sharpton? Had this been a group of 50 white teens on a black family they would show up like Crap flies on freshly found crap. We would see this being called a hate crime and a demand for the police to do something. We would see marches in the streets and so on. Things like this just ...
Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton won't show up until they have some suspects and/or arrest in this case. It won't be to their advantage until they have a scumbag to exploit!
That's why I like carrying the XD-40 and at least one spare mag. I've got 12+1 in the gun, and 12 more in my pocket. Plus the P-11 with 10 more (sometimes).
And I would think that since none of the punks produced a gun during the hassle, they were probably relying on sheer numbers to intimidate the family. Once two or three of them went down, the rest of them probably wouldn't feel so big. ...
It would draw the press....don't worry about that. The first question they'd ask our side was...where are our white hoods. Or the question would start something like "So why do you hate these poor individuals who are just trying to express the rage they have?" Somehow, the it's the victim's fault. Our side...and I don't mean white or black or whatever, will never be welcome by the press....we like...
Quote: Originally Posted by p8re8 i would start retreating with me between my family and the mob. i would not draw unless the attack seemed fatal. 50 to 1 or 2 is bad odds. if you killed a teen, espescially a non-gun carrying (note i did not say unarmed) kid. you better be prepared for all types of retaliation, criminal, civil and late night because the rest will find out where you live. better to fight another day. help the cops find them...
Quote: Originally Posted by S&WM&P40 So what about the family friend who the mob is attacking? Would you just leave him to be beat and maybe killed? While you hide in side the house watching him get beat to death? Remember the only reason the guy jumped into the fight is because the mod was attacking a family friend. Sorry, I forgot about him from the story. Edit my original story to say, "I'd instruct everybody...
Quote: Originally Posted by p8re8 ... I would start retreating with me between my family and the mob. I would not draw unless the attack seemed fatal. Definitely a tough scenario to envision and not one I think any of us hope to face. But, these sorts of things can and do happen. I agree, one must make that split-second assessment as to whether a situation requires the use of deadly force or not. My wife and I found ourselves in a similar...
The Marshalls say they fear retaliation at home or when they go outside. They are considering arming themselves, but they're concerned about the possible problems that come with guns. Umm, you were standing somewhere minding your own business, what problems can a gun cause at this point? Get good training, follow the law and protect your family, because YOU should know better than anyone that the Police won't be there to save you.
If you pulled a pistol you had better used it or some one in that crowd would have taken it away from you. It's a shame America has gotten in this condition. I remember a time when this would not have happened. There was crime but not like there is now. You will not see the Race Baiters out to desparage the behaviour of these jerks. The hate crimes are only for the minorities. I did not carry for years but now every where I go...
Quote: Originally Posted by S&WM&P40 The "White Power" nut jobs will have a field day with this. What i don't get is where is Rev Jesse Jackson Or Al Sharpton? Had this been a group of 50 white teens on a black family they would show up like Crap flies on freshly found crap. We would see this being called a hate crime and a demand for the police to do something. We would see marches in the streets and so...
perhaps it is time that some of us "other" people should have our own team of civil rights rabble rousers to charge in and make noise and press when we are victims of hate crimes? Question is who could we get that would have the visibility to draw the press? __________________ Thou shalt maintain thy airspeed...lest the ground come up and smite thee
Quote: Originally Posted by HootmonSccy One Gun against 50 kids?? Hummm.. Here is my 1st thought.. I would say, if you pull it, you better empty it.. With that many people, there is a chance (a small chance) someone could take the gun from you (You cant shoot 15 people all coming at you at once). If you empty the clip, at least they can't use it against you and your family.. Sure if you get off the 1st shot, everyone backs away,...
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