Thread: What is the difference in MDMA and MDA hallucinations
Started 1 month, 3 weeks ago by rane420
I know that MDMA can give hallucinations at high doses. I recently had pills that i thought were MDA due to the intensity of the hallucinations i had but have recently been told that my hallucinations could have just been from a very high doseage of MDMA.
So my question is what exactly are the differences in the hallucinations themselves to tell which one i may have had?
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Originally Posted by rane420
I know that MDMA can give hallucinations at high doses. I recently had pills that i thought were MDA due to the intensity of the hallucinations i had but have recently been told that my hallucinations could have just been from a very high doseage of MDMA.
So my question is what ...
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Originally Posted by ShaolinBomber
MDMA does not cause hallucinations directly. IT IS THE CONVERSION OF MDMA TO MDA UPON THE METABOLIC BREAKDOWN OF THE SUBSTANCE.
mda is highly hallucinogenic BECAUSE IT HAS A HIGH AFFINITY TO BIND TO 5-HT2A RECEPTORS, WHICH CAUSE HALLUCINATORY EFFECTS IN HUMANS.
Anyone who ...
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Originally Posted by poopstation
only a small percentage of the MDMA is metabolized to MDA. otherwise it'd be the same exact experience. MDMA and MDA act on different 5-ht receptors.
the conversion rate is roughly 10%. So a good amount of mdma, 200-300mg, produces ROUGHLY 20-30mg of MDA, which ...
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Originally Posted by ShaolinBomber
MDMA does not cause hallucinations directly. IT IS THE CONVERSION OF MDMA TO MDA UPON THE METABOLIC BREAKDOWN OF THE SUBSTANCE.
mda is highly hallucinogenic BECAUSE IT HAS A HIGH AFFINITY TO BIND TO 5-HT2A RECEPTORS, WHICH CAUSE HALLUCINATORY EFFECTS IN HUMANS.
Anyone who ...
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Originally Posted by levictus
I would say you get mild hallucinations from MDMA itself. You know things like colours being more vibrant and brighter and how you get this MDMA effect on time-space. Just look at a bunch of people dancing while on MDMA, it always feels a little off, like someone disabled my ability to ...
hallucinations is not really the right word. Visuals is more appropriate. Visuals on MDA are more intense than on MDMA, although if you take enough MDMA you'll experience pretty much the same intensity of visuals.
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Originally Posted by ShaolinBomber
This would be "trails." I get this all the time at night as a symptom of HPPD.
And it depends on what you would call a significant amount of MDMA.
No not trails. I am talking about how on MDMA it's hard to judge time so movement look kind of out of sync. ...
Well maybe someone can just tell me if they think it was MDMA or MDA by what happend. so what i experianced was like mind fuck type things.It was just me and my boyfriend but in my head i knew there was other people, i never saw these people i just knew they were there. plus i heard music after we turned it off. i thought my boyfriends hair was blue and i thought i was dropping things...
I experienced much more vivid hallucinations from MDA. With MDMA, they were pretty minor - I'd see sparkles, flashes of light, and colours were more vivid. But that was about it. On MDA I had some pretty interesting psychedelic-like visuals, especially when I closed my eyes. I found it more trippy and speedy than MDMA, but it didn't quite have the same empathogen/entactogen effects....
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Originally Posted by rane420
Well maybe someone can just tell me if they think it was MDMA or MDA by what happend. so what i experianced was like mind fuck type things.It was just me and my boyfriend but in my head i knew there was other people, i never saw these people i just knew they were there. plus i heard music...
Quote: Originally Posted by levictus I would say you get mild hallucinations from MDMA itself. You know things like colours being more vibrant and brighter and how you get this MDMA effect on time-space. Just look at a bunch of people dancing while on MDMA, it always feels a little off, like someone disabled my ability to put their movements in context of "real" time. I tend to get this stuff about one hour after dropping....
Quote: Originally Posted by ShaolinBomber This would be "trails." I get this all the time at night as a symptom of HPPD. And it depends on what you would call a significant amount of MDMA. No not trails. I am talking about how on MDMA it's hard to judge time so movement look kind of out of sync. Maybe it's just me. But I notice this almost every time I am on MDMA (which hasn't been a lot 8 months). It could...
Well maybe someone can just tell me if they think it was MDMA or MDA by what happend. so what i experianced was like mind fuck type things.It was just me and my boyfriend but in my head i knew there was other people, i never saw these people i just knew they were there. plus i heard music after we turned it off. i thought my boyfriends hair was blue and i thought i was dropping things i was never holding. thats not all of it but just most of...
Quote: Originally Posted by ShaolinBomber MDMA does not cause hallucinations directly. IT IS THE CONVERSION OF MDMA TO MDA UPON THE METABOLIC BREAKDOWN OF THE SUBSTANCE. mda is highly hallucinogenic BECAUSE IT HAS A HIGH AFFINITY TO BIND TO 5-HT2A RECEPTORS, WHICH CAUSE HALLUCINATORY EFFECTS IN HUMANS. Anyone who disagrees with me is an idiot and has no idea what they are talking about. only a small percentage of the MDMA is metabolized to...
hallucinations is not really the right word. Visuals is more appropriate. Visuals on MDA are more intense than on MDMA, although if you take enough MDMA you'll experience pretty much the same intensity of visuals.
I experienced much more vivid hallucinations from MDA. With MDMA, they were pretty minor - I'd see sparkles, flashes of light, and colours were more vivid. But that was about it. On MDA I had some pretty interesting psychedelic-like visuals, especially when I closed my eyes. I found it more trippy and speedy than MDMA, but it didn't quite have the same empathogen/entactogen effects.
Quote: Originally Posted by rane420 Well maybe someone can just tell me if they think it was MDMA or MDA by what happend. so what i experianced was like mind fuck type things.It was just me and my boyfriend but in my head i knew there was other people, i never saw these people i just knew they were there. plus i heard music after we turned it off. i thought my boyfriends hair was blue and i thought i was dropping things i was never holding....
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