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Thread: Wetting Current Measurement

Started 4 months ago by shanjey
How can I measure wetting current cross the switch contact? We set up a test circuit with 7 mA, and then integrate the switch contact with series and measure the current. Our spec is 1-7 mA. With this method we always get 6.95-6.99 mA and believe is high and the method we are doing not right. Please advise. Thanks for your time and advise.
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davidbeach replied 4 months ago
If you put 7mA through a closed contact you ought to measure 7mA through the contact. Current through the contact is strictly a function of the voltage and the impedance of the circuit the contact completes. The contact has no impact on the current.

shanjey replied 4 months ago
Is there is any procedure available for wetting current measurement? The way we do is set max current(7mA), And add contact to circuit and measure. But wetting current is the minimum current needing to flow through a newly-closed mechanical switch or relay in order to break through any film (contact oxidation) that may have been deposited on the switch. So if there is any standard procedure...

itsmoked replied 4 months ago
( You are talking about current. The issue with switch contacts is voltage . The contacts develop oxidation which is a thin layer of non conductive molecules. They, like any insulator, have a stand-off voltage. Depending on what materials the switch contacts are made of, that layer of oxidation will be chemically different. That leads to the various punch through voltages different switches ...

analogkid2digitalman replied 4 months ago
( Keith: I thought it was much lower than 10V, more on the order of a few tenths of a volt\(no references\). How do 1.5, 3V, and 9V battery operatted devices work reliably? Do they typically use gold in those applications, especially with units manufactured in China at minimal cost? and also 3\) Mercury switches. \(Not very PC with ROHS\) Thanks -AK2DM , )

shanjey replied 4 months ago
I get you point. But our Test voltage is 12.5V constant and contacts are gold/gold or carbon/carbon.

shanjey replied 4 months ago
I get your point. But our Test voltage is 12.5V constant and contacts are gold/gold or carbon/carbon.

macgyvers2000 replied 4 months ago
( Not my field, but contact wetting should only matter for items such as relays. Slide contacts, like what are found on even the cheapest of products, provide a surprisingly high amount of self-cleaning friction. , )

itsmoked replied 4 months ago
( Quote \(analogkid2digitalman\): I thought it was much lower than 10V, more on the order of a few tenths of a volt\(no references\). Nope. It just gets worse at those lower voltages. I have had switches fail due to contact oxidation up to about 15V, though, very rarely. Quote \(analogkid2digitalman\): How do 1.5, 3V, and 9V battery operated devices work reliably? Do they typically ...

zeusfaber replied 4 months ago
Could I check whether I have understood the test you are doing, and that we're not losing something in the language barrier? As I understand it, your test procedure is: 1. Connect 12.5V power supply, resistor and ammeter in series. 2. Adjust either the voltage or the resistor (please tell us which) to achieve a current of 7 mA 3. Without adjusting any further, break the circuit and ...

shanjey replied 4 months ago
Exactly we doing the same way as you mentioned. 1. Connect 12.5V power supply, resistor and ammeter in series. 2. Adjust the resistor (1.785K) to achieve a current of 7 mA 3. Without adjusting any further, break the circuit and insert the set of contacts under test 4. Measure the current in the new setup. But I feel we setting up (7mA) high end. Our spec is 1-7 mA. It should more lower ...

 

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shanjey
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Wetting Current Measurement
Published (2009-09-06 08:51:00)
Exactly we doing the same way as you mentioned. 1.  Connect 12.5V power supply, resistor and ammeter in series. 2.  Adjust  the resistor (1.785K) to achieve a current of 7 mA 3. Without adjusting any further, break the circuit and insert the set of contacts under test 4.  Measure the current in the new setup. But I feel we setting up (7mA) high end. Our spec is 1-7 mA. It...
itsmoked
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user's latest post:
Wetting Current Measurement
Published (2009-09-06 14:33:00)
( This sounds like a perverted specification that was originally for measuring optical inputs which are only current sensitive.  You would want them to trip between 1 and 7mA or call them dead.  Not mechanical switches. , )
davidbeach
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Wetting Current Measurement
Published (2009-09-06 13:02:00)
You're trying to measure something that has no meaning.  If the 12.5V and the 1.78kΩ are both completely stable, I'd be worried about any contact that showed less than 7mA.  A contact that shows 6.96mA has a contact resistance of almost 16Ω and that would be totally unacceptable.  If you measured only 1mA, that would mean a contact resistance of...
analogkid2digitalman
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user's latest post:
Wetting Current Measurement
Published (2009-09-04 15:11:00)
( Keith: I thought it was much lower than 10V, more on the order of a few tenths of a volt\(no references\). How do 1.5, 3V, and 9V battery operatted devices work reliably? Do they typically use gold in those applications, especially with units manufactured in China at minimal cost? and also 3\) Mercury switches. \(Not very PC with ROHS\) Thanks -AK2DM , )
macgyvers2000
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user's latest post:
Wetting Current Measurement
Published (2009-09-04 17:48:00)
( Not my field, but contact wetting should only matter for items such as relays.  Slide contacts, like what are found on even the cheapest of products, provide a surprisingly high amount of self-cleaning friction. , )
zeusfaber
1
user's latest post:
Wetting Current Measurement
Published (2009-09-05 17:48:00)
Could I check whether I have understood the test you are doing, and that we're not losing something in the language barrier? As I understand it, your test procedure is: 1.  Connect 12.5V power supply, resistor and ammeter in series. 2.  Adjust either the voltage or the resistor (please tell us which) to achieve a current of 7 mA 3.  Without adjusting any further, break the circuit and...

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