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Thread: Was tony right?

Started 3 months ago by Tikal
so i've always been anti reg side Always saw it from caps point of view and think dark reign is a direct result of civil war registration But... had secret invasion never happened... would we be singing tony was right? I mean despite all the shady stuff...Crime was at an all time low... shield was running like a well oiled machine. And while yes tony had a system set up where only he ...
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o1pickleboy replied 3 months ago
My opinion on the matter is that both side are so dug in their trenches that the arguement would still be at full steam. All secret invasion and dark reign did for me was conclude that both sides were wrong.

SquidSquod replied 3 months ago
Tony can't be right because Marvel has never given a chance for him to be right. On the other hand, the pro status quo has been given kudos after kudos as their resistances has been justified by SI & DR. If you want to read a balanced piece of writing, don't get Marvel's.

Triforce replied 3 months ago
Noooooo. Of course not. Running a country like a dictator makes for low crime-rates. That does not mean it's the right thing. I bet the crime rate in Latveria is real low, for example......

CrimsonComedian replied 3 months ago
Quote: Originally Posted by Tikal Again had secret invasion not happened I don't see tony losing power at all You can't take one away from the other. Thats like saying the cops in our city would have been good if there were no crime. In Marvel things like alien invasions and superpowered villains trying to destroy ...

Azure replied 3 months ago
Both sides were wrong.

AbdulAziz replied 3 months ago
We should blame the authority behind the event then. I do like these latest events, I won't share the complaints Ahem Ahem: Tony was right, let's celebrate by eating asparagus & broccoli with Deadpool

XPac replied 3 months ago
Quote: Originally Posted by Tikal so i've always been anti reg side Always saw it from caps point of view and think dark reign is a direct result of civil war registration But... had secret invasion never happened... would we be singing tony was right? I mean despite all the shady stuff...Crime was at an all time low... shield...

celticguy replied 3 months ago
in theory it could be a good thing but it would have to be handled differently. If the Heros were well organized SI would have been harder to pull off as it was having so many of them in communication and on teams worked against the skrulls far more than it helped them.

XPac replied 3 months ago
Quote: Originally Posted by celticguy in theory it could be a good thing but it would have to be handled differently. If the Heros were well organized SI would have been harder to pull off as it was having so many of them in communication and on teams worked against the skrulls far more than it helped them....

Sighphi replied 3 months ago
Quote: Originally Posted by XPac The thing is, organziing the hero community with the 50 States Initiative was actually a part of the skrull plot. That was Skrull Hanks idea. Honestly I don't completely see the point, but nonetheless I'm assuming from the skrull perspective it made things easier in some capacity....

 

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Published (2009-09-11 06:44:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by jackolover Not sure I remember reading the Skrulls using the SHRA to collect information on heroes. That brings up a point that as Tony Stark was so concerned with keeping the information (Knock list) secure, how did the Skrulls find out? Either the Skrulls took the info before Stark got it, or, Stark was leaving the Knock List where someone could access it. It was mentioned in the Agents of Atlas story in the Who...
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Published (2009-09-15 00:05:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by XPac What exactly did he want to do? Because honestly, it sounded to me like Zemo and Tony very similar ideas. Did you read the comic?
jackolover
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Quote: Originally Posted by celticguy someone should put that on a tshirt Maria Hill has it tatooed
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Published (2009-09-14 18:09:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by Sighphi Except for the HUUUUUGE fact that what he wanted to do was COMPLETELY different than what they wanted him to do. Well he is a villain (as was Tony at the time in my opinion), I doubt that they trusted each other. Each had a plan, each was using the other for that plan and neither cared about the moral questions involved. Mark_S
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Published (2009-09-10 07:53:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by Mark_S True, but Osborn has taken his que from Tony in that he is doing it with official backing. Norman's standards are a bit more lax than Tony's were, but the principle is the same: take someone who should be in prison and use him. You need look no further than Norman Osborn to see Tony's prime example of that principle. Take someone, enslave them, use them up and then throw them away. The main...
SquidSquod
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Published (2009-09-13 21:51:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by XPac I don't think it's really a case of preferential treatment to show some characters more flawed than others. Captain America is suppossed to represent an ideal. I don't think every character should be potrayed as flawless as he is (not that he's really flawless, but he's as close as marvel is willing to get with any character). MU would be very boring if everyone was like Captain...
mikekerr3
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Published (2009-09-15 05:56:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by CBikle Having super-heroes be a little more accountable isn't the worst idea. . Having super-heroes under full governmental control is not having them a little more accountable, it giving some of the worst of the villains control over the super-heroes
CMBMOOL
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Published (2009-09-14 20:28:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by XPac I'm going to particially agree with that, but not completely. I think he's getting a lot of flack from the MU itself for things that he wasn't directly responsible for. But I also think he got away with things that he SHOULD have been held responsible for. For example, it's almost silly that Osborn is trying to fabricate things Stark did wrong in CW, when Osborn flat out KNOWS that Stark...
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Published (2009-09-15 05:39:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by CMBMOOL That's true and besides Osborn was sort of right concerning the fact that the Skrull invasion was brought on by Tony Stark. At least in the sense of Tony Stark and the rest of the members of the Illuminati. The invasion was bound to happen anyway (due to some Skrull prophecy).
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Published (2009-09-08 20:48:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by Alan2099 I always thought that was a stupid and insulting idea. I think we'd all be better off ignoring that. Well the idea has been picked up in different forms all over. Like the reason why HYDRA and SHIELD fought so much revealed over in Secret Warriors. I always thought it made some sense, it is either that or Tony and Reed really suck at getting their world changing inventions out there. But Roxxon...

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