Thread: Was tony right?

Quote: Originally Posted by jackolover Not sure I remember reading the Skrulls using the SHRA to collect information on heroes. That brings up a point that as Tony Stark was so concerned with keeping the information (Knock list) secure, how did the Skrulls find out? Either the Skrulls took the info before Stark got it, or, Stark was leaving the Knock List where someone could access it. It was mentioned in the Agents of Atlas story in the Who...

Quote: Originally Posted by XPac What exactly did he want to do? Because honestly, it sounded to me like Zemo and Tony very similar ideas. Did you read the comic?

Quote: Originally Posted by celticguy someone should put that on a tshirt Maria Hill has it tatooed

Quote: Originally Posted by Sighphi Except for the HUUUUUGE fact that what he wanted to do was COMPLETELY different than what they wanted him to do. Well he is a villain (as was Tony at the time in my opinion), I doubt that they trusted each other. Each had a plan, each was using the other for that plan and neither cared about the moral questions involved. Mark_S

Quote: Originally Posted by Mark_S True, but Osborn has taken his que from Tony in that he is doing it with official backing. Norman's standards are a bit more lax than Tony's were, but the principle is the same: take someone who should be in prison and use him. You need look no further than Norman Osborn to see Tony's prime example of that principle. Take someone, enslave them, use them up and then throw them away. The main...

Quote: Originally Posted by XPac I don't think it's really a case of preferential treatment to show some characters more flawed than others. Captain America is suppossed to represent an ideal. I don't think every character should be potrayed as flawless as he is (not that he's really flawless, but he's as close as marvel is willing to get with any character). MU would be very boring if everyone was like Captain...

Quote: Originally Posted by CBikle Having super-heroes be a little more accountable isn't the worst idea. . Having super-heroes under full governmental control is not having them a little more accountable, it giving some of the worst of the villains control over the super-heroes

Quote: Originally Posted by XPac I'm going to particially agree with that, but not completely. I think he's getting a lot of flack from the MU itself for things that he wasn't directly responsible for. But I also think he got away with things that he SHOULD have been held responsible for. For example, it's almost silly that Osborn is trying to fabricate things Stark did wrong in CW, when Osborn flat out KNOWS that Stark...

Quote: Originally Posted by CMBMOOL That's true and besides Osborn was sort of right concerning the fact that the Skrull invasion was brought on by Tony Stark. At least in the sense of Tony Stark and the rest of the members of the Illuminati. The invasion was bound to happen anyway (due to some Skrull prophecy).

Quote: Originally Posted by Alan2099 I always thought that was a stupid and insulting idea. I think we'd all be better off ignoring that. Well the idea has been picked up in different forms all over. Like the reason why HYDRA and SHIELD fought so much revealed over in Secret Warriors. I always thought it made some sense, it is either that or Tony and Reed really suck at getting their world changing inventions out there. But Roxxon...