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Thread: Virtual Bases?

Started 1 month, 2 weeks ago by Denny Crane
Would someone like to attempt to explain exactly how a PILOT virtual base would work? Wouldn't the company also have to staff it with reserves? Any idea how many flights a day (on the same equipment) are required in and out of a possible virtual base to make it feasible? For you Delta guys, if the company really is looking at virtual basing, when do you think it would be announced, before or ...
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iaflyer replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
I don't know how a virtual pilot base would work, but here at DAL, the virtual FAs bases make it seem like a bad idea. The FAs based in Florida say that there are no reserves: if you get sick or whatever, you have to find your own replacement. The limited size of the bases make them very senior, with almost no movement. Also, FAs can fly any airplane that transits the base, while we cannot. Thus,...

Sink r8 replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by Denny Crane ...if the company really is looking at virtual basing... Denny, What makes you think this is being considered? I've speculated that virtual bases might be a natural solution if laws are changed to restrict commuting, but I've not seen any concrete info to suggest ...

Sink r8 replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by iaflyer I don't know how a virtual pilot base would work, but here at DAL, the virtual FAs bases make it seem like a bad idea. The FAs based in Florida say that there are no reserves: if you get sick or whatever, you have to find your own replacement. The limited size of the bases make them very senior, with...

Denny Crane replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Sink r8, For the most part I'm just curious how the operation would work. I just don't see how it would be feasible for pilots. If you are wondering, I'm the last guy who would have any "inside info" on anything. But there have been a couple of posts on different threads that made me think about this so I decided to ask the questions. This one is from the "Latest and Greatest" thread (...

Sink r8 replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Thanks Denny. I hadn't seen that post. My only comment is that both items 1 and items 7 would have a huge impact on our lives. I would hate for significant changes to our AE process, and basing, to be effected without polling, and MEMRAT. Above all, these changes should be looked at very, very carefully, slowly, and professionally. Item 1 in particular implies great benefits for the ...

Denny Crane replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by Sink r8 Thanks Denny. I hadn't seen that post. My only comment is that both items 1 and items 7 would have a huge impact on our lives. I would hate for significant changes to our AE process, and basing, to be effected without polling, and MEMRAT . Above all, these changes should be looked at very, very...

Sink r8 replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by Denny Crane I totally agree with all your points, especially the bolded ones! Like I said, I'm just curious, if virtual bases were agreed to and implemented, how would a virtual base work? Looking at it from a laymans stand point, I just do not see how it would be cost effective for the Delta, or any company...

Denny Crane replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by Sink r8 Well, right off the top of my head, it would be cost-effective if you could reduce overnights. Second, it may not be about cost-effectiveness, but about providing a solution to a new problem. Again, if laws change to make it punitive to commute, then there is a problem which cannot be solved entirely...

Sink r8 replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by Denny Crane One of the problems with it I think was brought up earlier is: What if equipment is downsized or upgauged into one of these VB's? Now you don't have the right pilots there. Maybe you end up with a few more bases large enough where there is enough mix for this not to matter, i...

iaflyer replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by Sink r8 Maybe you end up with a few more bases large enough where there is enough mix for this not to matter, i.e. BOS, and then maybe some smaller satellite bases. Maybe you structure it so that you're (for example) NYC based, but BDL gets to be a satellite. You design a process so that guys can bid BDL ...

 

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Sink r8
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Published (2009-10-30 11:11:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by Scoop The company and the union have been going around and around about a San Diego satellite 767/757 base for a couple of years. I believe the company actually accepted a proposal that was drafted by a LAX FO and then the Union leadership had second thoughts. The sticking point was reserve coverage. It does present a problem, but it is not insurmountable - as a matter of fact AMR does it in San Diego. Scoop...
Denny Crane
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Published (2009-10-30 11:01:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by Sink r8 Why couldn't you maintain reserves at a satellite base too? You keep the % reserves as a constant. Unless you get to a very small number of departures, where you get into rounding problems (i.e. one resreve is too little, two is two many), I don't see a problem. For every few guys that want to fly out of of (for example) BDL, there is one or more guy that wouldn't mind sitting reserve there....
iaflyer
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Published (2009-10-30 10:36:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by Sink r8 Maybe you end up with a few more bases large enough where there is enough mix for this not to matter, i.e. BOS, and then maybe some smaller satellite bases. Maybe you structure it so that you're (for example) NYC based, but BDL gets to be a satellite. You design a process so that guys can bid BDL on a monthly basis, a little bit like the NW bidding process (I think they call their monthly...
Scoop
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Published (2009-10-30 11:03:00)
The company and the union have been going around and around about a San Diego satellite 767/757 base for a couple of years. I believe the company actually accepted a proposal that was drafted by a LAX FO and then the Union leadership had second thoughts. The sticking point was reserve coverage. It does present a problem, but it is not insurmountable - as a matter of fact AMR does it in San Diego. Scoop
FlyingViking
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Published (2009-10-30 11:07:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by Denny Crane [/b] Not that I'm senior in category but I for one would definately sit reserve if it ment sitting it at home as opposed to commuting to a regular line!!! Denny +1. Imagine sitting home on LC and SC.... Awesome, I would bid it for life.. Either TPA or MCO will do...

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