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Thread: Upshifting from 1st to 2nd gear

Started 1 year, 4 months ago by snowmannn
I've got my S2 for about 3 months now and I'm still getting used to smooth shifting. I learned to blip the throttle to smooth downshifting and to operate quickly with the clutch lever/throttle/shift lever in order to get better upshifts. However, I still can't get 1st to 2nd gear upshift to go smoothly. Most of the time I hear a strong click sound when getting into 2nd gear and I wonder if this ...
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xj750_Pete replied 1 year, 4 months ago
My trick for upshifting from 1-2 is to not completely shut off the throttle while shifting. Usuaully I just accelerate, roll throttle forward enough to not allow the revs to drop too much, but enough to unload transmission, clutch in, shift, roll back on throttle and clutch out. I find that it is easier to do this if the throttle play is adjusted correctly. It took me about a week to get it down...

DaFiz replied 1 year, 4 months ago
There's a distinct "CLUNK" as I change to second no matter what I do, so I use the first gear only to pull away and change to second way sooner than I should. I've learned to live with this as one of my older Yamahas (1.1Special) had no second gear at all...

lattin25 replied 1 year, 4 months ago
Don't worry its not just you!! If I'm not mistaken, everyones fz6 does it. Mine sure does, I can only get it real smooth every once in a while, but as far as I'm concerned its not a big deal. You can try preloading the shifter. (Apply some upward pressure before you begin to let off throttle and disengage clutch.) It should pop to 2nd a little quicker and smoother.

Doorag replied 1 year, 4 months ago
I've actually go to the point I can shift from 1-2 smoothly without the clutch at all. It tends to work best under moderate acceleration.

dankatz replied 1 year, 4 months ago
It is the most annoying feature of the bike in my opinion. It is certainly not you. Things that helped me: at 1600 miles it has gotten smoother with time. Rotella T synthetic oil helped (probably any synthetic oil eventually help), short shift 1-2, i.e. make the shift at 3k rpm, no higher, put your foot under the gear change and give it a touch pressure before you shift. It has made this much ...

madmanmaigret replied 1 year, 4 months ago
I agree with the pre-load theory. If you put some pressure on there before you shift it makes it much less "clunky"

OneTrack replied 1 year, 4 months ago
Quote: Originally Posted by xj750_Pete My trick for upshifting from 1-2 is to not completely shut off the throttle while shifting . Usuaully I just accelerate, roll throttle forward enough to not allow the revs to drop too much, but enough to unload transmission, clutch in, shift, roll back on throttle and clutch out. I find that it ...

steveindenmark replied 1 year, 4 months ago
What is 2nd gear and what is it for?? I go straight from first into 3rd. Can`t they take some gears out of this bike? Steve

stevesnj replied 1 year, 4 months ago
I want a 7th gear added...im always looking for it anyway

MarinaFazer replied 1 year, 4 months ago
Quote: Originally Posted by OneTrack Good quality, well fitting boots helped with my shifting too....really. I couldn't agree more to this statement. I rode with Timberland hiking boots and tennis shoes before...then I got a pair of used Sidi Vertebra boots. The shifting is way easier. The guy I bought them ...

 

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snowmannn
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Upshifting from 1st to 2nd gear...
Published (2008-09-29 06:43:00)
BTW changing sprocket(s) for higher speed means you'll get less acceleration
castor
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Upshifting from 1st to 2nd gear...
Published (2008-08-18 12:02:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by fzwing Yup, just the first to second is a PITA far as smoothness goes. That clunk dont bother me, long as nothing lets go. Will probably switch to syn oil on my next change, but I bet she's still a clunker. The rest of the gears works fine. Don't bother with that one if you think that that will solve the "clunking". I'm on Motul 300V since service one on 6000km, and nothing has...
xj750_Pete
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Upshifting from 1st to 2nd gear...
Published (2008-08-12 14:03:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by aussiejules If mine doesnt clunk, i think god damn i might be getting the hang of this, then the next time it clunks and back to reality. You know at first I thought the clunking was because of how cheap Yamaha designed the transmission. I've come to really appreciate the clunking now. Especially with my thick boots, the clunking allows me to really feel that I have properly shifted into second with a nice...
VWci
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Upshifting from 1st to 2nd gear...
Published (2008-08-17 21:30:00)
Yesterday i noticed that it was clunky when shifting at above 3000 rpm to 2nd... it wasnt clunky and was very smooth when shifting at 2000 rpm to 2nd... I also noticed that mine is clunky when doing 2nd to 3rd..vs.. But when accelerating fastly it is sometimes very quite 2nd to 3rd....
KensFz6
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Upshifting from 1st to 2nd gear...
Published (2008-08-17 05:34:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by fizz_off As others have pointed out muscle memory is starting to kick in and I'm finding shifting my bike is much easier/smoother this way. My first bike was the XT250 and I still short shift very quickly and pronounced from first to second. Before I'd be clear of the intersection, I'm up to second and I usually get a bit of a jolt when I do. As for downshifting, I can't do it worth a damn yet....
Tony Basson
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Upshifting from 1st to 2nd gear...
Published (2009-03-26 02:32:00)
Good advice. I've been wanting to reduce the throttle freeplay, as I battle to blip on downshifts. How do you adjust the freeplay?
dankatz
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Upshifting from 1st to 2nd gear
Published (2008-08-12 05:15:00)
It is the most annoying feature of the bike in my opinion. It is certainly not you. Things that helped me: at 1600 miles it has gotten smoother with time. Rotella T synthetic oil helped (probably any synthetic oil eventually help), short shift 1-2, i.e. make the shift at 3k rpm, no higher, put your foot under the gear change and give it a touch pressure before you shift. It has made this much more bearable, but still, about 30% of the time it...
aussiejules
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Upshifting from 1st to 2nd gear...
Published (2008-08-12 13:58:00)
If mine doesnt clunk, i think god damn i might be getting the hang of this, then the next time it clunks and back to reality.
fzwing
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Upshifting from 1st to 2nd gear...
Published (2008-08-18 11:55:00)
Yup, just the first to second is a PITA far as smoothness goes. That clunk dont bother me, long as nothing lets go. Will probably switch to syn oil on my next change, but I bet she's still a clunker. The rest of the gears works fine.
SovietRobot
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Upshifting from 1st to 2nd gear...
Published (2009-03-26 03:36:00)
You can adjust the free play at the throttle grip(plastic adjusters), or by the throttle bodies themselves. Be sure you adjust the throttle side and not the return side. The manual calls for 3 to 5mm of play, and I've found that works best. I've had no play it all and the throttle was way too sensitive. With a little bit of freeplay throttle control and the ability to blip it on downshifting was actually improved.

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