Thread: United Federation of Planets(ST) vs Galactic Empire(SW)

Quote: Originally Posted by foamy Specifically, the point is that the reason that those worlds didn't pull that shit under the Empire was that the Empire had all those warships acting as security forces. And that, when those forces were removed, all the tensions the Empire had suppressed blew right on up. That means that the Empire can't simply throw everything at the Federation. Not that this changes the outcome, you understand,...

Quote: Originally Posted by Rama Still doesn't excuse the claims of the Federation having to fight and defeat a major military power in the course of her existence through conventional means (i.e. beans, bandages and bullets). Twist as you might, your argument doesn't really hold any water. If that same manner of trick is useable against the Empire, their entire war ends with but a whimper. Quote: Try and keep up Mith. I have. Do...

Quote: Originally Posted by Leo1 I love it how you keep assuming the entire Imperial fleet is required to simply maintain order in the galaxy on the basis of no evidence. I love how you think Palpatine can justify having any kind of warfleet after 20 years of relative peace (Yuuzhan Vong not being public knowledge and all) and no big enemy to fight (you said the Rebellion doesn't count). Quote: Outbound Flight. Can't be bothered...

So, anything important happen while I was away? Didn't think so.

Quote: Originally Posted by evilauthor , Oh, that. I think I mentally disregarded it because there's something about that feels... incomplete. Like there's a step missing or something. I'm not sure how to put it better. Aha, I think I got it. The "tank box" needs a "human box" beside it and then the human box next to zoomed in so that its the same size as the clone troopers. This should at...

Quote: Originally Posted by Magni Except for being outnumbered, Doesn't matter if the enemy can't use those numbers. Quote: outgunned, Hardly. If Star Wars capitalships can be downed by fighters then they can be downed by Star Trek ships. Quote: outmaneuvered On their home-turf it's the other way around. The Empire needs to scout out hyperspace routes just to move around. The Federation can move around freely without any. And...

Quote: Originally Posted by Mr. Oragahn OK. This is completely nuts. That thread grows by more than a hundred posts in half a day. What's the next station? I'll give you a hint: we're on the Handbasket line, and we're approaching the final stop.

Quote: What subspace network? What refueling stations? Was this subspace network ever attacked during the Dominion War? It would be logical to do so... if it existed. BTW, do you mean subspace comms? According to the DS9 TM (which I'm not aware of the canon of - how does Trek canon rank?), subspace transmission range is limited to 22.65 light years and must be sent via relays buoys located in realspace. Whether these exist or not in Trek...

I'll post more latter as time and my computer/connection permits, but I just have to say their is a serious amount of hypocricy going on among the hardline pro-wars camp in this thread. They are more then willing to apply every peice of evidence and technology in use by the Republic and the Sepretist and in Wars faction for that matter to support their views on the Empire, but cry foul when TOS era tech is used in regards to the...

Quote: Originally Posted by l33telboi The Federation doesn't need to attack. All they need is to defend themselves, No. If they try that, it comes down to attrition and that's a game where anyone sane bets on the side with orders of magnitude more manpower and industrial output. Quote: and that they can do quite perfectly, Except for being outnumbered, outgunned, outmaneuvered and having basically no realistic chance to do more then...