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Started 4 months, 1 week ago by Van Evok
It seems that under Russian pressure Obama administration dropped the idea of deploying BMD radars and interceptors - in Czech Republic and Poland respectively. As Poland is under intense military pressure from Russia, going as far as nuclear threats, it seems value of US alliance is dropping every day, with unability or unwillingness to help Georgia last year when Russians ran rampant almost ot...
The Melancholy Of Haruhi replied 4 months, 1 week ago
"Van Evok" It seems that under Russian pressure Obama administration dropped the idea of deploying BMD radars and interceptors - in Czech Republic and Poland respectively. As Poland is under intense military pressure from Russia, going as far as nuclear threats, it seems value of US alliance is dropping every day, with unability or unwillingness to help Georgia last year when Russians ran ...
Poland is in NATO. Russia won't touch it. Furthermore, the US doesn't need that tech in Poland and the Czech Republic to be superior to Russia. The Russians lost aircraft fighting Georgia . 'Nuff said.
The Melancholy Of Haruhi replied 4 months, 1 week ago
"Omnileech" U dunno, OP, what implications does changing nothing have? i swear to god, the way the press carry on about international relations, you'd think that a venezuelan diplomat in spain breaking wind in a bistro was a ground shaking enough event to start a war between bolivia and columbia.
seems to me like people imagine this s**t is more complex and ridiculous then ...
"Resid3nt" still in the cold war, eh?
Putin et consortes certainly - he even said dispersion of soviet union to be biggest tragedy of XX century - obviously blind to things Stalin did in the same country...
Quote: Poland is in NATO. Russia won't touch it. Furthermore, the US doesn't need that tech in Poland and the Czech Republic to be superior to Russia. The Russians lost aircraft ...
Louis-Auguste Robespierre replied 4 months, 1 week ago
"Van Evok" erm, ever heard of starting of WW1? some dumb terrorrist shot buffon aristocrat hated by own family, then series of affronting political messages resulted in wholesale mobilization in Europe's big powers, and once armies took to the field there was no going back...
Or you could read a little history and learn that the Great War had been building up for the previous 43 years, ...
"Louis-Auguste Robespierre" "Van Evok" erm, ever heard of starting of WW1? some dumb terrorrist shot buffon aristocrat hated by own family, then series of affronting political messages resulted in wholesale mobilization in Europe's big powers, and once armies took to the field there was no going back...
Or you could read a little history and learn that the Great War had been building ...
"Texinadawolf" Russia would not dare invade poland
The European Union would respone
yes, by sending Putin invitation for a girls party with Berlusconi razz
Germans would be probably disturbed by seeing russian tanks 100km from Berlin, but with pacifism rampant, i doubt anything real would be done, with Russian nukes menacingly waved...
Invictus_88 dio777 If your talking about the EU, then I believe only Britain and France possess nuclear weapons, and only Britain has a sophisticated enough delivery system to pose a serious danger to say Russia for example. The French use cruise missiles dont they ? France and the UK both have sufficient delivery systems, and the French have a much broader range of warhead delivery systems than the UK. Id actually like to see some more...
US are completely tied up in Iraq/AFG, thats why 2008 Georgia run was so easy for Russia... btw with Obama going out of his way to placate Russia, I dont see US cavalry coming razz
dio777 Invictus_88 dio777 If your talking about the EU, then I believe only Britain and France possess nuclear weapons, and only Britain has a sophisticated enough delivery system to pose a serious danger to say Russia for example. The French use cruise missiles dont they ? France and the UK both have sufficient delivery systems, and the French have a much broader range of warhead delivery systems than the UK. Id actually like to see some...
"Van Evok" "Texinadawolf" Russia would not dare invade poland The European Union would respone yes, by sending Putin invitation for a girls party with Berlusconi razz Germans would be probably disturbed by seeing russian tanks 100km from Berlin, but with pacifism rampant, i doubt anything real would be done, with Russian nukes menacingly waved... We have nukes as well and the bigger army. Unless Russia is...
"Van Evok" "Louis-Auguste Robespierre" "Van Evok" erm, ever heard of starting of WW1? some dumb terrorrist shot buffon aristocrat hated by own family, then series of affronting political messages resulted in wholesale mobilization in Europe's big powers, and once armies took to the field there was no going back... Or you could read a little history and learn that the Great War had...
"DanskiWolf" Poland is in NATO. Russia won't touch it. Furthermore, the US doesn't need that tech in Poland and the Czech Republic to be superior to Russia. The Russians lost aircraft fighting Georgia . 'Nuff said. You think NATO would actually do something productive if Russia acted? NATO's track record is ******** more horrible than Bush's.
You know, I'd prefer to know that "missile defense" actually works as a defense against missiles before betting the farm on it by antagonizing the Russian Federation by installing it in eastern Europe. It's hard to take the 100% success rate reported in more recent tests seriously after the 75% failure rate in the early ones. And the eh...multiple subcontractors exploding. Though I guess that's a given with...
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