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Thread: Twenty-six Lies About H.R. 3200

Started 4 months ago by Adenovir
Factcheck.org is a non-partisan organization, but I don't expect that opponents of HR 3200 will believe that. OFW. http://factcheck.org/2009/08/twenty-six-lies-about -hr-3200/ Our inbox has been overrun with messages asking us to weigh in on a mammoth list of claims about the House health care bill. The chain e-mail purports to give "a few highlights" from the first half of the ...
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wzambon replied 4 months ago
As someone here at PA said when confronted with irrefutable proof that the bill didn't say what he thought it said.... "I don't care what the bill says. I just don't trust Obama." fear... lizard brains at work. Bill Z

MrCynic replied 4 months ago
There's a big difference between what the bill says and what it will actually end up doing. Does the bill mandate rationing? No, but that's what the effect of implementing these provisions will be. Does the bill limit the types of care one can get? No, but that's how it will end up. Does the bill mandate an end to private insurance and the establishment of the government as the ...

zathrus1 replied 4 months ago
There's a big difference between what the bill says and what it will actually end up doing. In a way, analysis of things like this e-mail is very misleading to the point of dishonesty. They are not addressing the real issues, they are not addressing people's concerns. It's the old trick of picking out the weakest representative among your opponents to stand up for a drubbing and ...

bcairns replied 4 months ago
Factcheck.org is a non-partisan organization There's no such thing.

Adenovir replied 4 months ago
Factcheck.org is a non-partisan organization There's no such thing. As expected. Adenovir

Ziege19 replied 4 months ago
There's no such thing. Dude, if you think that the whole world can be separated into Democrat and Republican, it's time to turn off Glen Beck and get off of PA. Go out into the world and have some, you know, real human contact. You've gotten way to into this stuff.

0x6a74 replied 4 months ago
Dude, if you think that the whole world can be separated into Democrat and Republican, it's time to turn off Glen Beck and get off of PA. Go out into the world and have some, you know, real human contact. You've gotten way to into this stuff. probably more like the world can be separated into Republicans and Terrorists. />:

bcairns replied 4 months ago
There's no such thing. Dude, if you think that the whole world can be separated into Democrat and Republican The left/right divide pervades everything. It's quite apparent.

bcairns replied 4 months ago
In a way, analysis of things like this e-mail is very misleading to the point of dishonesty. They are not addressing the real issues, they are not addressing people's concerns. It's the old trick of picking out the weakest representative among your opponents to stand up for a drubbing and ignoring the best arguments your opponents have. Exactly. Have a rec. I'm continually amazed at ...

Ziege19 replied 4 months ago
The left/right divide pervades everything. It's quite apparent. That's really sad. And for the first time today, I'm not being sarcastic. Get outside, please. Go do some charity work or something. Heck, go fishing. Barbecue. Get laid. Go to a baseball game. Engage in some activity that does not involve political ideology. Above all, seriously, turn off the cable news. It's ...

 

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bcairns
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Twenty-six Lies About H.R. 3200
Published (2009-08-31 12:19:00)
It is kind of funny a 'non-partisan' organization would title this '26 lies' when some of them are true and some are half truths. It also takes away from those that are true. Factcheck isn't a bad website, but like any other, it requires one to do their own research. You're wrong. It's holy writ. ;)
Ziege19
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Published (2009-08-30 17:16:00)
Our politics. I don't think policy is a game. But I do think politics has come to resemble sports. Raw raw, root for the home team, win win, let's look at the play-by-play, etc. You may not understand the distinction, since you believe that every person and organization is either Right or Left and all things can be divided so. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have some Democrat-bread to take out of the oven, and Leftist dog that is...
Adenovir
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Factcheck.org is a non-partisan organization There's no such thing. As expected. Adenovir
0x6a74
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Twenty-six Lies About H.R. 3200
Published (2009-08-30 12:36:00)
Dude, if you think that the whole world can be separated into Democrat and Republican, it's time to turn off Glen Beck and get off of PA. Go out into the world and have some, you know, real human contact. You've gotten way to into this stuff. probably more like the world can be separated into Republicans and Terrorists. />:
crassfool
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Published (2009-08-30 13:04:00)
the Perfesser says Does the bill mandate rationing? No, but that's what the effect of implementing these provisions will be. Just like what we have now. Does the bill limit the types of care one can get? No, but that's how it will end up. Just like what we have now. Does the bill mandate an end to private insurance and the establishment of the government as the single payer for health care? No, but that's what will most likely...
SirTas
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Twenty-six Lies About H.R. 3200
Published (2009-08-30 13:32:00)
In a way, analysis of things like this e-mail is very misleading to the point of dishonesty. They are not addressing the real issues, they are not addressing people's concerns . It's the old trick of picking out the weakest representative among your opponents to stand up for a drubbing and ignoring the best arguments your opponents have. The concerns that people have: are these concerns about HR 3200? The best arguments: are these...
bufftrainer
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There's a big difference between what the bill says and what it will actually end up doing. So you're Carmac the Magnificent?
hk2
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Twenty-six Lies About H.R. 3200
Published (2009-08-30 20:50:00)
In a way, analysis of things like this e-mail is very misleading to the point of dishonesty. They are not addressing the real issues, they are not addressing people's concerns. It's the old trick of picking out the weakest representative among your opponents to stand up for a drubbing and ignoring the best arguments your opponents have. Only 4 out of 48 items in the e-mail were accurate. Tell me again who's "misleading...
synchronicityII
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Twenty-six Lies About H.R. 3200
Published (2009-08-30 23:36:00)
Says who? The Internet? LOL. Ah yes, the facts have a liberal bias. And there are no "facts", no objective truths, just opinions. If liberals claim that we landed on the moon and conservatives were to claim otherwise, you'd be right there knocking any and all objective evidence of the Apollo missions as left-wing spin. You're as bad the wing nuts who say complain about "evolutionists" claiming...
wzambon
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Published (2009-08-30 09:21:00)
As someone here at PA said when confronted with irrefutable proof that the bill didn't say what he thought it said.... "I don't care what the bill says. I just don't trust Obama." fear... lizard brains at work. Bill Z

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