Thread: To Judge or to Coach?

Quote: Originally Posted by frbskate63 No, I think you have to get a pass from both of them - if they disagree, then it's a retry. Thank you! I thought you would probably know.

Quote: Originally Posted by Query Alas, the rink where I volunteered couldn't afford to register all the BS coaches, and I wasn't. You could offer to pay for your registration yourself. You're right about the Basic Skills Instructor's Manual. It's a great little book. Remember though, that the descriptions of elements are correct, but the level to which they must be executed is fairly low. I wish my current school...

The one competition I judged at left a sour taste in my mouth. The head judge (from somewhere else) basically briefed us that: -no skater was good enough for a 6.0 -the top mark in each category would be a 4.7 This was for a basic skills competition, and we used ordinals. I was like ????? ok, yeah whatever. For coaching, at my rink we are also covered to coach at the birthday parties on public skating-they are considered "group...

The US is so sue-happy, maybe USFS subsidizes the $10/year Basic Skills deal. Unless the included insurance doesn't protect coaches and/or rinks as well as they hope. An average athlete gets a medically reported injury twice a year. [Arnheim, Arnheim's Principles of Athletic Training .] If one in 100 parents sues, twice a year, and each suit costs thousands of dollars to fight, and some win, there is no way unsubsidized insurance can...

Quote: Originally Posted by slusher I'm a bad judge, I cheer and clap for skaters. I'm a coach at heart. I didn't want to trial judge at our last comp for that very reason! I wasn't competing, and looked forward to leading the cheering - especially for the lower levels of learn to skate, where the audience have no idea what to clap, I like to get them going. It's odd, because I wish I could do all 3: skate, coach...

Quote: Originally Posted by Mrs Redboots whereas I believe that under USFSA regulations, all tests require two judges..... No tests require two judges, because what would happen if they disagree? The first one or two tests in each discipline require only one judge, although they can also be judged with three. The rest of the tests require three judges to judge them. If a majority, i.e., two, give passing marks, then the skater passes the...

Quote: Originally Posted by Skate@Delaware For coaching, at my rink we are also covered to coach at the birthday parties on public skating-they are considered "group lessons" and we are on payroll as rink employees and covered under the rink insurance. If I continue doing this next year (which I doubt because of my clinical schedule) I will obtain PSA insurance-then I can also coach on my own time (I will need the money...

Quote: Originally Posted by slusher I'm a bad judge, I cheer and clap for skaters. I'm a coach at heart. Me too!!! I get all caught up in the program and forget to watch for the elements. The ISI requires judges to take tests in order to be certified for all competitions. There are not supposed to be any "step in" judges. The ISI annual district seminars always include a session on judging, including judging videos...

Quote: Originally Posted by Mrs Redboots Ah, right. We have one judge for the lower levels, and then two for higher ones - I don't know what happens when they disagree, I imagine they average the marks. No, I think you have to get a pass from both of them - if they disagree, then it's a retry.

I went through the same thing with coaching. I coached synchro on top of my full-time job (4 hrs on Saturdays, 1.5 on Sundays, 2 hrs on Tuesdays plus worked with a collegiate team an hour away once every other week). On top of that, my boyfriend at the time was into college hockey and wanted me to go with him to watch games (at the same rink) on Friday/Saturday nights when the team was home. On top of that, the board for the synchro team I...