Thread: The rape-scene bothers me

...Who's to say this kind of thing hasn't happened on the news in Europe? Sweeney Todd is set in England which is in Europe! I am. When someone asked me if I ever saw the news I thought that he was refering to a specific case (like a well known jugde raping someone in public) and my response was that even if that was a big case in USA we probably wouldn't have heard about it in Europe. Like people in USA probably don't...

Beadle, dear! Beadle! Beadle! Beadle deedle deedle Deedle deedle deedle dumpling. [Pats and rocks imaginary baby.] Mmm... And why would you weep then, my Jo, my jing? Ooh... Your father's at tea with the Swedish king. He'll bring you the moon on a silver string. Ooh, ooh, Quickly to sleep then, my Jo, my jing. He'll bring you a shoe and a wedding ring. Sing here again, home again, come again spring. He'll be coming soon...

Thank you. I knew it was instated in the London production, but I didn't realize it was written specifically for that production.

As to her offering herself to men, yes, she was prostituting herself out of desperation. She needed money and if they wouldn't be generous, she'd offer the only thing she had in exchange (it's very special merchandise: you sell it... you still got it!), possibly as a result of being raped, possibly just out of necessity. That is one way of looking at it and I do think this is a possibility also. Another interpretation is that...

that is some awesome insight sukey...thanks for that! nice and refreshing out looks on the story Don't mind me. I've got a book to read : Death

I always feel better, though, when Sweeney screams, because that's how I always feel...like I just want to scream. "Nooooo!" I do, too. I still feel that way when I see that scene. The way that Burton filmed it (told Ms. Kelly to scream like a mad woman) was brilliant film-making. The laughing people in the animal masks rotating around them (Turpin and Lucy) is like a sinister merry-go-round. I would agree with those...

Also, if we're going to get really technical with the staging of the original, she does not sing "Beadle deedle dumpling" to the imaginary child. She doesn't start cradling the child until after she arrives in the upstairs flat and begins to recognize things. She does have the additional "Lullaby" which she then sings to the imaginary child (cut from most productions, including the original) but...

I'm just referring to power corruption in general Team You've Got A Very Important Date Alice Army

Aww. Bearbaiting. Sad. I always took the lyric "They figured she had to be daft" to mean either that she was insane (or a little slow) and so it was okay, or to mean that she must have been an idiot not to know what was going on. Either way, it seemed clear to me that this was just the kind of thing the Judge DID, and his social circle was completely fine with it. He had ALL of the power, after all. He could have thrown them...

Very good explanation. Kiss me, I bleed Last seen: Casablanca, 9/10