Thread: The New James T. Kirk: Now With 'Instant Gratification'!

well since im insisting that its a TV SHOW and MOVIE SERIES, yes i know it isnt real. why don't you stop trying to be the insult guy aj, your not very good at it. try being the nice guy, it might work for you.

I have no problem if they change canon to make more sense. But not if it makes less sense. "I have the higher ground" "what's that supposed to mean?"

I'd buy it if the sequence would have had him tweaking the system enough to save the Maru in the nick of time (or being able to disable/destroy all enemy ships by the smallest of margins, and then have Pine Kirk act all smug after it was over - with a final shot of the 'administrators' of the test scratching their heads over it. Had they then chosen to later "discover" after extensive testing that Pine Kirk...

thank you for proving my point brch, i will admit it was a bit odd even to me he got to captain but, it is not out of line with the established character "I'm not racist, I hate everyone equally."

I could be wrong, but I think the fastest someone obtained command of a ship was when 12 year old Midshipman David Farragut was placed in command of one of the prizes USS Essex captured during the War of 1812. Granted, the Navy didn't have as many ranks to skip back then. In today's U.S. military, at the age Kirk became a captain, most officers would be a year away from when the could be considered for promotion to lieutenant...

As I asked, do you think he tried to do it covertly and simply got caught or did you assume starfleet didnt know he had cheated and thats why he got a commendation? The former. That would take into account Kirk's obvious cunning that is displayed throughout TOS and in the first 7 films. I saw none of that intelligence behind what Kirk did in ST09. The actions in the film might very well govern "Pine Kirk" but they...

"I saw none of that intelligence behind what Kirk did in ST09. The actions in the film might very well govern "Pine Kirk" but they don't conform to what we'd should have expected from "Shatner Kirk." As explained before, no one knows how prime Kirk beat the Kobayashi Maru test nor his state of mind at the time. This Kirk probably was giving the middle finger to the testers (the test...

This one is juvenile delinquent, smug/smart-ass/know-it-all, "Instant Gratification" Kirk. The perfect Captain Punk for our lowered-standard times... Where as Shatner's Kirk, well... This one is middle aged, smug/smart-ass/know-it-all, "Instant Gratification" Kirk. The perfect Captain Punk for our lowered-standard times... Quite correct.

Well, you're just acting like the tv show is some sacred entity, that can not be touched. I don't know if I'm unhappy because I'm not free, or if I'm not free because I'm unhappy.

"All the crew are younger than they were in TOS. Sign of the times, I guess. If you don't get it, just take a look around you in 2009. ... Just look at what the young kids are doing - my seven year old daughter does stuff on this computer I don't fully understand" that's an excellent point! :)