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Thread: The Creatine Graveyard...

Started 10 months, 2 weeks ago by WillBrink
The Creatine Grave Yard By Will Brink © 2009 Looks like another “high tech” form of creatine has got one foot planted firmly in the creatine grave yard. What is the creatine graveyard? It’s where forms of creatine - other then monohydrate - go when either science has shown them inferior to monohydrate, and or it’s life cycle of hype has come to and end. I refer specifically to ...
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nni replied 10 months, 2 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by WillBrink The Creatine Grave Yard By Will Brink © 2009 Looks like another “high tech” form of creatine has got one foot planted firmly in the creatine grave yard. What is the creatine graveyard? It’s where forms of creatine - other then monohydrate - go when either science has shown them inferior to ...

Prince replied 10 months, 2 weeks ago
I read the study, how are you going to explain all of the CM non-responders that respond to CEE? Placebo effect? Bullshit, I am a CM non-responder and CEE works for me, and there are MANY more bodybuilders that will make the same claim.

PreMier replied 10 months, 2 weeks ago
ut oh

WillBrink replied 10 months, 2 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by nni the recent study does debunk it as far as creatinine levels in the blood, but not performance. performance wise it was on par with mono with respect to strength and body composition. so either they both dont work, or they both do, you can just choose which parts of the study you will accept....

WillBrink replied 10 months, 2 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by Prince I read the study, how are you going to explain all of the CM non-responders that respond to CEE? Placebo effect? Bullshit, I am a CM non-responder and CEE works for me, and there are MANY more bodybuilders that will make the same claim. You may want to read the rest of my comments...

nni replied 10 months, 2 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by WillBrink Read what I said closely and or read the study, the placebo group had the same response. Thus, this study does not show its on par with CM, is shows CEE and CM were on par with placebo, likely due to using untrained subjects. I don't accept selective parts of studies and am clear what the drawbacks...

WillBrink replied 10 months, 2 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by nni i was talking more with respect to the study, i didnt read your report yet. but if it is addressed then it is responsible, i have seen at least 3 different self appointed authorities ignore that fact. That's why I'm Will Brink, and they are not. But seriously, "self ...

KelJu replied 10 months, 2 weeks ago
Well Fuck! But wait, let me ask this. They didn't do a study of proven mono-hydrate non-responders tested to see if they benefited from CEE. That would be of interest to me. Two groups of mono-hydrate non responders: One group given mono Another group given CEE. I would love to know how those numbers would break down. I bet the creatine serum levels would be higher in the CEE group.

WillBrink replied 10 months, 2 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by KelJu Well Fuck! But wait, let me ask this. They didn't do a study of proven mono-hydrate non-responders tested to see if they benefited from CEE. That would be of interest to me. Two groups of mono-hydrate non responders: One group given mono Another group given CEE. I would love to ...

KelJu replied 10 months, 2 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by WillBrink If you got the $$$$, I can make it happen I would bet you $100, that would not be the case. It's less stable period, and leads to big increases in creatinine, not serum creatine or tissue creatine levels. If you stop, you are going to ruin my god damn placebo!

 

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Published (2009-10-25 13:51:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by Ben dur i think its safe to say that MOST of the PRODUCT (not just sups) that come from china are subject to LOW QUALITY CONTROL . Agreed. I avoid eating anything from China be it supps, food, meds, etc.
suprfast
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Published (2009-11-02 13:54:00)
Thanks Will. On top of things as always. kris
Prince
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Published (2009-09-12 18:13:00)
all I can say is that CM did nothing for me and gave me nasty side effects, e.g. GI issues, I tried CEE and never turned back, CEE does work, I only have to take 3 grams per day and I have zero side effects. I have stopped using CEE as a test and there are noticeable difference in my muscle fullness, strength and endurance in the gym. And there are thousands of CEE users that will attest to this as well. I always tell people try CM and if it...
bio-chem
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Quote: Originally Posted by WillBrink And the reasons for not disclosing the company are given. I didn't disclose the name of the company that tested well either for some years, only recently disclosing the fact it was Creapure. For years I got letters and emails asking "What's the name of the German brand that tested so well Will?" and only 'till fairly recent was that info disclosed for both reasons...
strong
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OK thanks
Ben dur
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Published (2009-10-25 16:06:00)
edit breeding not "bread" example farmed fish genetically mutated farmed chicken rabbit etc although most could also be breaded example KFC fried mullet etc further edit KFC chicken is 100% US chicken
KelJu
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Quote: Originally Posted by WillBrink I can get you a bottle of this stuff real cheap: I want a bottle that has that for the label. That would be a great conversation piece.
jchappj
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Published (2009-10-24 08:49:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by WillBrink Long answer: Creatine, do you know what chemicals you are eating? Click here! Great write-up Will, thanks!
Ngordyn
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Published (2009-03-19 10:14:00)
if its your first time start with CM easy cheap , and if it works for you great
zombul
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This will do 4Ever Fit Creatine 1000 g

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