Thread: Spanish wind farms outperform 11 nuclear power stations, briefly

It's amazing how they can figure out stuff with such a small brain.

because it was called on telling those big old bad fibs.

Wind farms don't suck electricity from the grid. There is no situation that they ever could. However, that's what you claim, and you have provided no proof to your claim. Let me put it in layman's terms so you can understand. You claim that a wind turbine/farm will turn into a giant motor pulling power from the grid. That's what you have claimed, and I have asked you to prove it. Obviously you can't.

Edited on Wed Nov-11-09 03:54 PM by Statistical http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/electricity/epa/epa_sum.ht... Wind has horrible capacity factor (<30% worldwide average is 19.1%). Utilization is annual output of plant divided by theoretical max (power rating * 24 * 365). A 1 GW plant with 100% utilization would produce 1 * 24 *365 = 8760 GWH of generation in one year. So our 4.2 billion GWH would require hypothetically 480...

We should be able to live smarter and have a smaller footprint. And in the long run we need fewer people on this planet. But doing nothing or fighting what practical solutions we have available now is tremendously counterproductive. Telling people to make do with less doesn't work. Teaching and adaptation take time.

And my new favorite: http://www.isentropic.co.uk Nice.

but those beaks are real weapons, capable of causing serious mayhem!

The environmentalists and you agree? Yet you label them as wanting humans to go away. All the while they are doing what you say. So: why doesn't telling people to make do with less, work? Is conversation now a 4 letter word?

It causes me to wonder what the wattage of their pumped-hydro facilities is. Once they exceed that, adding more storage capacity gets expensive.

I wonder how much of each?