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Thread: So, Will Ioc Ban Future Heads Of State Visits?

Started 2 months, 2 weeks ago by baron-pierreIV
1. So, were the presences of Lula, Juan Carlos, Obama and the Japanese prime minister crucial or neessary to the bids? To me, all their presences cancel each other out. 2. Or were they merely a distraction? 3. Would the results have been the same anyway if the heads of state did not attend? 4. Are the visits merely an ego trip for the IOC members? 5. SHould the IOC ...
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Sir Roltel replied 2 months, 2 weeks ago
QUOTE (baron-pierreIV @ Oct 3 2009, 04:03 PM) 1. So, were the presences of Lula, Juan Carlos, Obama and the Japanese prime minister crucial or neessary to the bids? To me, all their presences cancel each other out. 2. Or were they merely a distraction? 3. Would the results have been the same anyway if the heads of state did not attend? 4. Are the visits merely...

micheal_warren replied 2 months, 2 weeks ago
I think bids should be able to have what ever representatives attend the presentation. Having a head of state present shows government commitment etc. Rio had the governor of the reserve speak. Although Rotel idea regarding a video message from the head of state has merit

RobH replied 2 months, 2 weeks ago
If anything, this result shows the IOC are fairly immune to the circus surrounding them, but not immune to their persausive powers. In terms of what the people in power have done, this race is similar to the 2012 race (which is odd because it's different in almost every other sense). Blair and Lula lobbied hard, Chirac and Obama were mostly there to do a nice speech and then fly home...

walei replied 2 months, 2 weeks ago
I also don't think they should be banned. This time it was more of an over-estimation on the Obama effect. I do hope in the future though, if head of states or top government figures wants to head the delegation, they are involved through and through during the whole process. It's apparent that IOC was unmoved with the Obama's whirlwind "I'M HERE JUST CUZ, KTHXBYE" presentation. I...

stirthesoul replied 2 months, 2 weeks ago
Ban political heads and royalty. The US is at a huge disadvantage cuz no president SHOULD be too involved for 4 years with matters of olympic/support/planning. In a country this big there are too many other priorities across many enormous cities/states. The president will never be able to appear as involved and devoted as many other smaller countries, so this will always be a negative...

RobH replied 2 months, 2 weeks ago
As long as the IOC expects blank cheques for billions of pounds from governments, and nations' taxpayers to fund the infrastructure that will enable their two week party to take place, banning heads of states shouldn't happen. It's crazy-talk to expect such a large investment but not allow the person ultimately responsible for it to attend the session if they so wish....

 

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As long as the IOC expects blank cheques for billions of pounds from governments, and nations' taxpayers to fund the infrastructure that will enable their two week party to take place, banning heads of states shouldn't happen. It's crazy-talk to expect such a large investment but not allow the person ultimately responsible for it to attend the session if they so wish. -------------------- Congratulations to Rio de...
baron-pierreIV
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1. So, were the presences of Lula, Juan Carlos, Obama and the Japanese prime minister crucial or neessary to the bids? To me, all their presences cancel each other out. 2. Or were they merely a distraction? 3. Would the results have been the same anyway if the heads of state did not attend? 4. Are the visits merely an ego trip for the IOC members? 5. SHould the IOC ban them in the future? I mean what else will the heads of state say anyway?...
Sir Roltel
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QUOTE (baron-pierreIV @ Oct 3 2009, 04:03 PM) 1. So, were the presences of Lula, Juan Carlos, Obama and the Japanese prime minister crucial or neessary to the bids? To me, all their presences cancel each other out. 2. Or were they merely a distraction? 3. Would the results have been the same anyway if the heads of state did not attend? 4. Are the visits merely an ego trip for the IOC members? 5. SHould the IOC ban...
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I think bids should be able to have what ever representatives attend the presentation. Having a head of state present shows government commitment etc. Rio had the governor of the reserve speak. Although Rotel idea regarding a video message from the head of state has merit
walei
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I also don't think they should be banned. This time it was more of an over-estimation on the Obama effect. I do hope in the future though, if head of states or top government figures wants to head the delegation, they are involved through and through during the whole process. It's apparent that IOC was unmoved with the Obama's whirlwind "I'M HERE JUST CUZ, KTHXBYE" presentation. I know Obama supported the...
stirthesoul
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So, Will Ioc Ban Future Heads Of...
Published (2009-10-03 12:21:00)
Ban political heads and royalty. The US is at a huge disadvantage cuz no president SHOULD be too involved for 4 years with matters of olympic/support/planning. In a country this big there are too many other priorities across many enormous cities/states. The president will never be able to appear as involved and devoted as many other smaller countries, so this will always be a negative. -------------------- Good Luck RIO.

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