My small business is about to fail. I owe roughly 60k in term loans from the start-up, 50k on credit lines, and 20k in CC debt, all personally guaranteed. Additionally I personally guaranteed a commercial lease with roughly 38k left remaining for two more years of the lease. I have accepted that the business has failed. I've never defaulted on any loan before in my life, but I don't ...
Do you have any assets you need protected? If it were me, I think I would file BK if it were possible. I would advise you speak to an attorney to see what your options are. There are a lot of people here who have recovered nicely after a BK, and probably more who have toughed it out for as long as possible, and THEN had to file. It's a decision you have to make but make sure you don't ...
QUOTE (fnguy @ Nov 14 2009, 12:08 PM) My small business is about to fail. I owe roughly 60k in term loans from the start-up, 50k on credit lines, and 20k in CC debt, all personally guaranteed. Additionally I personally guaranteed a commercial lease with roughly 38k left remaining for two more years of the lease. I have accepted that the business has failed. I've never defaulted ...
I would ask why the business is failing. is it you and the management? In that case... what about selling the business? if it is the business model itself, will be more difficult to sell it. What type of business? where?
It's the business model itself that is failing, so selling it isn't really an option. I do have some asset to prtect, but I put almost everything I had into keeping the business going as long as I did. At thins point they could take my home and my car, but there's not really much equity in the home at this point so I don't know that'd they'd even bother. It is a retail business in the ...
QUOTE (fnguy @ Nov 16 2009, 09:52 AM) If I BK won't they take my home and everything anyways? depends on your state. IMO you need to speak with an attorney. you alluded above to paying off creditors versus BK and only damaging your scores in the short term..... I guarantee if you if you time your BK right, you will be hurt less (score wise) by a BK than slowly paying off ...
QUOTE (Jen23514 @ Nov 16 2009, 12:30 PM) QUOTE (fnguy @ Nov 16 2009, 09:52 AM) If I BK won't they take my home and everything anyways? depends on your state. IMO you need to speak with an attorney. you alluded above to paying off creditors versus BK and only damaging your scores in the short term..... I guarantee if you if you time your BK right, you will be hurt ...
QUOTE (fnguy @ Nov 16 2009, 03:57 PM) QUOTE (Jen23514 @ Nov 16 2009, 12:30 PM) QUOTE (fnguy @ Nov 16 2009, 09:52 AM) If I BK won't they take my home and everything anyways? depends on your state. IMO you need to speak with an attorney. you alluded above to paying off creditors versus BK and only damaging your scores in the short term..... I guarantee if you ...
QUOTE (toopooor @ Nov 16 2009, 04:14 PM) Time the BK before the accounts go late, so you only have the BK on the report, not lates. You can file a bk and reaffirm the house and car notes. I'm not late on my personal bills, and I still have my 9-5 job so I can meet those obligations. My fear is that after I file BK for the business, they will sue my personally and seize my home ...
Also, if I "time" the BK as you sugguest, how long until my score will be above 700 again if that is the only negative on my report? Will my personal credit issuers cancel my cards and lines of credit even though I won't be stiffing them on any money, or will they leave those accounts open so I can have positve tradlines still posting?
QUOTE (fnguy @ Nov 16 2009, 05:45 PM) Also, if I "time" the BK as you sugguest, how long until my score will be above 700 again if that is the only negative on my report? Will my personal credit issuers cancel my cards and lines of credit even though I won't be stiffing them on any money, or will they leave those accounts open so I can have positve tradlines still posting? You ...
QUOTE (jtoast @ Nov 17 2009, 12:53 PM) An important question that I haven't seen asked is "how is the business structured?" Did you incorporate, did you form an LLC or are you just a sole proprietor? This matters because if you either incorporated or formed an LLC you may be able to have the business file bankruptcy instead of filing it personally. If you stuck with sole proprietor you are going to have...
QUOTE (fnguy @ Nov 17 2009, 11:44 AM) QUOTE (Jen23514 @ Nov 16 2009, 09:53 PM) QUOTE (fnguy @ Nov 16 2009, 02:57 PM) I live in Missouri. within limits, they can not take your home. homestead and all that. What are the limits? It varies by state, depending on homestead exemption. If you have loans on them and the equity is basically nothing they can't take them either and you can reaffirm...
QUOTE (fnguy @ Nov 16 2009, 01:57 PM) I've talked to an attorney, he told me I should look at ways to pay off the debt if possible, Though truthfully I don't have the means to do that. Most people would rather pay off the debt than have to declare bankruptcy. Unfortunately, that is often not possible. I would speak with a different (bankruptcy) attorney. RCJ ETA: Also, check out the bankruptcy forum here on CB......
QUOTE (toopooor @ Nov 17 2009, 11:09 AM) If the debts are PG'd, it won't matter Misread the OP. I read it that first time as some of the debt was PG'd, not all of it. My advice to talk to a good CPA stands though as it is amazing how a cpa can find ways to restructure debt that you didn't know existed.
I would ask why the business is failing. is it you and the management? In that case... what about selling the business? if it is the business model itself, will be more difficult to sell it. What type of business? where?
Do you have any assets you need protected? If it were me, I think I would file BK if it were possible. I would advise you speak to an attorney to see what your options are. There are a lot of people here who have recovered nicely after a BK, and probably more who have toughed it out for as long as possible, and THEN had to file. It's a decision you have to make but make sure you don't totally close off your options.
QUOTE (fnguy @ Nov 14 2009, 12:08 PM) My small business is about to fail. I owe roughly 60k in term loans from the start-up, 50k on credit lines, and 20k in CC debt, all personally guaranteed. Additionally I personally guaranteed a commercial lease with roughly 38k left remaining for two more years of the lease. I have accepted that the business has failed. I've never defaulted on any loan before in my life, but I...
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