Thread: Slower preferred to Faster

So, Remington says they can increase MV to 1700fps without exceeding SAAMI guidelines, yet the loads produce 50% more recoil than other loads which meed SAAMI guidlines. Since pressure is what produces recoil, well.................something doesn't add up to me. (anyone know what payloads Remington is putting in these 1700fps loads?) Alldrakes, where did you find this "50% more recoil" claim?

Quote: Originally Posted by FullandFuller There are "recoil calculator" equations that basically compute a number in ft-lbs based solely on muzzle velocity and payload weight (the mass of powder is sometimes included too). Some include the gun weight to give free momentum of the gun. Those calculations do not account for the time component of the payload being accelerated from 0" to 28". Some people think...

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Thanks... my ascii art skills are not what they once were, but I tried. I think I am with OC on this slower vs faster. I like 1450 fps range with steel. Seem to be ahead too often, though; I've been seeing ducks knuckle. I have not shot at enough ducks this year to really get in any kind of groove. Been shooting a lot of crows and doves with 950 fps subsonics, so I probably have my mind trained for too much lead when shooting the 1450....

That and the fact that Remington never made any "Drylok" ammo.

[quote=JohnBZ;7519088] Quote: Originally Posted by o/u thats funny right there. Ned S kept it interesting around here, that was for sure Yea i was trying to poke alittle fun at old Don.He must have not seen this post yet because i havent gotten a good cussing yet

Quote: Originally Posted by videographer That's because they won't penetrate if you miss the carboard. I never thought of that. Quote: Originally Posted by Steel3's That and the fact that Remington never made any "Drylok" ammo. You are correct, Drylok is Winchester. The shells were Remington 10 ga. 1 3/4 oz BB's.

Quote: Originally Posted by Andy Work Speaking of slow shells, I had some of the old Remington Drylok 10 ga. BB's @ 1200 or 1250 FPS. When patterning the gun some of the BB's wouldn't penetrate a cardboard box at 40 yards! That's because they won't penetrate if you miss the carboard.

Found it. http://www.texashuntfish.com/app/for...EC042061A040B5

Quote: Originally Posted by FullandFuller I totally agree with the notion that "learning one lead" is a bunch of marketing BS. If anything it will be harder because it is much more of a jump for most people that shoot 1200 fps lead to hit with 1700 fps steel. On the payload versus pressure comment, this is the way I see it: What truly acts on the payload is force and how long it is applied. Force is directly related to...