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Thread: Shooting low

Started 1 month, 3 weeks ago by HamburgBoy84
I was out shooting this morning with my main CCW G19 and my Sig p226 BW Tactical. I'm starting to group the glock pretty well (at least all 15 rounds were on a paper plate @ about 20 ft) but I can't get more than 50% on the paper with the Sig. Most of them are at least 12" low etc. The gun is brand new and I'm not a great pistol shooter, but even bench resting this thing is not on target. Should ...
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knight0334 replied 1 month, 3 weeks ago
Either aim higher or put a taller rear sight on it. Could be a trigger control issue as well if you're used to the Glock's trigger versus the Sig's, they are a bit different. I dont see how the gun can be defective to warrant sending it back. If the barrel locks up tight, I doubt its a problem with the gun.

GuyMontag replied 1 month, 3 weeks ago
Since you shot it off of a rest, are you absolutely sure the gun was locked in position to confirm that the gun is shooting low. From your self-admitted lack of pistol skill, I'd guess that it's trigger control or anticipation as already suggested. I'd be damn sure it's the gun and not the shooter before you start changing things. With something the quality of a Sig, I'm guessing shooter.

BrowningBoy replied 1 month, 3 weeks ago
Make sure you are focusing on the front sight. Target should be slightly blurry. Move closer until your groups shrink, as they do move back. 15 of 20 rounds in a 9 in paper plate at 7 yards is just the beginning. If you practice regularly and learn proper technique you will be putting 20 of 20 in the center of that plate. Once you are there, then you will know what each of your guns will do....

Brick replied 1 month, 3 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by HamburgBoy84 Most of them are at least 12" low etc. The gun is brand new and I'm not a great pistol shooter, but even bench resting this thing is not on target. Should I send it back to Sig? I would bet dollars to donuts there is nothing wrong with the regulation of the sights on either...

HamburgBoy84 replied 1 month, 3 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by Brick What you need to do is learn the basics of pistol marksmanship. I know I have a lot to learn, but with the other pistols I own (glock) and have owned, (Ruger and Walther .22, Kimber 1911, SigPro .40) I've been reasonably accurate with. Maybe I'm just not use to the SRT trigger on ...

BrowningBoy replied 1 month, 3 weeks ago
From what you described before you are not grouping reasonably well with either of the two guns mentioned. At 20 ft even with a gun where the sights are way off you should still be able to hit a plate 20 out of 20 shots. At my last qualification I was given a USP 40 compact to use. At 3 yards my group was 1 ragged hole, at 7 yards my group was about 2 in. center of target. At 15 yards the ...

Nic replied 1 month, 3 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by Brick I would bet dollars to donuts there is nothing wrong with the regulation of the sights on either pistol. So there is no need to send your pistol back to SIG or put taller sights on it either. What you need to do is learn the basics of pistol marksmanship. Go to www.bullseyepistol.com and find the ...

Steve_NEPhila replied 1 month, 3 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by HamburgBoy84 I know I have a lot to learn, but with the other pistols I own (glock) and have owned, (Ruger and Walther .22, Kimber 1911, SigPro .40) I've been reasonably accurate with. Maybe I'm just not use to the SRT trigger on this Sig. Why would I group the G19 fairly well and then not even be ...

Steve_NEPhila replied 1 month, 3 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by HamburgBoy84 I know I have a lot to learn, but with the other pistols I own (glock) and have owned, (Ruger and Walther .22, Kimber 1911, SigPro .40) I've been reasonably accurate with. Maybe I'm just not use to the SRT trigger on this Sig. Why would I group the G19 fairly well and then not ...

Brick replied 1 month, 3 weeks ago
Quote: I know I have a lot to learn, but with the other pistols I own (glock) and have owned, (Ruger and Walther .22, Kimber 1911, SigPro .40) I've been reasonably accurate with. Maybe I'm just not use to the SRT trigger on this Sig. I would doubt that the trigger mechanism would have a lot to do with shooting that low. But, trigger ...

 

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BrowningBoy
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Published (2009-11-04 02:20:00)
Mythaeus, Exellent video its a shame we can't all spend a few days with Jarrett
mythaeus
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Quote: Originally Posted by BrowningBoy Mythaeus, Exellent video its a shame we can't all spend a few days with Jarrett This video was my money-saver and only teacher (minus the first-time-shooter 20-minute instructions at the range). I found it a few weeks after owning my first gun and still try to follow every bit of it (except the stance, I use Weaver). I teach first time shooters based on techniques in this video and every single one...
HamburgBoy84
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Published (2009-11-03 07:59:00)
I had both guns out at the range again today. I put approx 250 rnds through them combined. I'm still grouping the Glock better, but I'm getting the Sig all on the paper now. Still low of my mark but better. Thanks for all the help and suggestions. Just looks like I need more rounds through the pipe and some work on the fundamentals.
Brick
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Shooting low
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Quote: I know I have a lot to learn, but with the other pistols I own (glock) and have owned, (Ruger and Walther .22, Kimber 1911, SigPro .40) I've been reasonably accurate with. Maybe I'm just not use to the SRT trigger on this Sig. I would doubt that the trigger mechanism would have a lot to do with shooting that low. But, trigger control along with an improper grip can. For example your description of the low shots sounds (to me)...
tlgpa
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Published (2009-11-03 07:59:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by BanginBonnie2 Assuming you don't hand-load, have you tried other manufacturer/ bullet weights ? If I buy something new, I usually buy every manufacturer and bullet combo I can afford for that particular cartridge/caliber ... you'll be amazed at the group differences. At 20ft ammo quality isn't the cause of 12"+ groups. Even bullet weight is going to have a measureable effect. At 20ft, the...
Steve_NEPhila
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Shooting low
Published (2009-11-02 11:12:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by HamburgBoy84 I know I have a lot to learn, but with the other pistols I own (glock) and have owned, (Ruger and Walther .22, Kimber 1911, SigPro .40) I've been reasonably accurate with. Maybe I'm just not use to the SRT trigger on this Sig. Why would I group the G19 fairly well and then not even be hitting paper 1/2 the time with the Sig in the same caliber? And I am using a dot in the center of the paper...
Ronin
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Published (2009-11-03 07:59:00)
It could also be that you have the wrong sights on your Sig. If you look at the numbers on the front and rear sights, what are they? If you search Google you will find several instances where people have complained about Sigs shooting low. Usually it's because they got the wrong sight combination from the factory.
Hawk
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Published (2009-11-03 07:59:00)
I ran into this on a P220 after I was use to shooting a G17. I was shooting the Sig at the same target at the same distance and it would shoot consistantly 6" low for me. I handed it to my buddy (who was use to shooting Sig's) and he was dead on. I discovered it was trigger control. If I slowed down and pulled the trigger slowly and evenly, POA=POI.
BanginBonnie2
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Shooting low - Page 2
Published (2009-11-03 07:59:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by HamburgBoy84 I was out shooting this morning with my main CCW G19 and my Sig p226 BW Tactical. I'm starting to group the glock pretty well (at least all 15 rounds were on a paper plate @ about 20 ft) but I can't get more than 50% on the paper with the Sig. Most of them are at least 12" low etc. The gun is brand new and I'm not a great pistol shooter, but even bench resting this thing is not...
Nic
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Shooting low
Published (2009-11-02 11:12:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by Brick I would bet dollars to donuts there is nothing wrong with the regulation of the sights on either pistol. So there is no need to send your pistol back to SIG or put taller sights on it either. What you need to do is learn the basics of pistol marksmanship. Go to www.bullseyepistol.com and find the AMU Pistol Marksmanship Manual and read it. It will tell you everything you need to know about all of the basics....

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