Thread: Santana. Overrated or not?

Quote: Originally Posted by Gas Hed Santana needs to learn theory. True. His musical vocabulary is non-existant beyond the basic pentatonic scale, the phrygian and the dorian. Very basic, intermediate guitarist. That's why it's so funny that some bright heads have suggested in this thread Santana > McLaughlin. That's such a gigantic fail I don't even know where to start.

Quote: Originally Posted by Cold Gin He needs to work on his vibrato and phrasing, the suck of his tone is not even on the charts. while I find his tone very easy to replicate, I don't think it sucks at all.

Quote: Originally Posted by BoneNut Show me just one of his posts that proves otherwise. Come on man... I was trying to be nice.

Quote: Originally Posted by cratz2 Come on man... I was trying to be nice.

Quote: Originally Posted by cratz2 McLaughlin is a best and a half and without a doubt more technically gifted than Santana. But how many McLaughlin songs can you listen to, then walk away whistling or humming the melody? Anyone that has even the most rudimentary understanding of music would agree that Santana has a radically more melody-based lyrical style than McLaughlin. absolutely, McLaughlin is a fantastic player and nothing to take away...

His strings are awesome, too

Quote: Originally Posted by scuzzo listen to love devotion and surrender.. then say he is over rated... No not at all.. For melody, he kicks the shit out of John McLaughlin. JM is a great guitar player in his own right, but he was too much into the "I'm going to fit as many notes in as little space as I can" mentality.

Quote: Originally Posted by mike-o Santana haters: download the song "transcendance" from Moonflower and tell me Carlos sucks That song has one of my favorite solos in it...

20 years ago, he was hot....now, not so much, actually he should retire, instead of putting out disc's like the last 15 years.

I can see how somebody who isn't familiar with his early work and only knows him as an old guy who wanks over pop records could think he's overrated, but back in the late 60s and 70s he was a monster player. Santana in his prime