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Thread: Saabs supercharged SVO engine (2001) gets 30% BETTER MPG than naturally aspirated engine.

Started 3 months, 2 weeks ago by JohnWxy
NOW WHY THE F--K DOESN'T GM DO THIS WITH THEIR FLEX-FUEL CARS (E85 has higher octane rating than high test gas) WHICH WOULD WORK EVEN BETTER WITH HIGHER OCTANE E85! PEOPLE COULD BE GETTING 30% BETTER MILEAGE WITH E85 FLEX-FUEL CARS! SHIT GM, NO FUCKING WONDER YOU'RE IN TROUBLE. WHY DON'T YOU MAKE A REAL EFFORT? MAYBE YOU WOULDN'T BE IN THE TROUBLE...
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muriel_volestrangler replied 3 months, 2 weeks ago
Wikipedia says, at the moment: "The SVC project was shelved by General Motors, when it took over Saab Automobile, due to cost." A moving cylinder head could be quite an engineering problem. It'd be interesting to know what difference they thought it'd make to manufacturing cost, and reliability.

TexasProgresive replied 3 months, 2 weeks ago
Alcohols have less energy then gasoline and diesel. High performance vehicles, those with high compression or supercharged need higher octane to prevent preignition. The higher octane of E85 will allow the turbocharged engine to run it OK but to get the same performance MPG goes down. There ain't no free lunch!

Turbineguy replied 3 months, 2 weeks ago
Edited on Mon Sep-14-09 07:39 PM by Turbineguy (or for that matter superchargers) push more air into an engine, permitting more fuel to be burned. Burning more fuel generates the greater horsepower. Naturally aspirated 4 stroke engines benefit from charging by an increase in volumetric efficiency. This results obviously in more power for a given sized engine. This translates to a ...

Fledermaus replied 3 months, 2 weeks ago
Edited on Mon Sep-14-09 08:01 PM by Fledermaus

JohnWxy replied 3 months, 2 weeks ago
about supercharging or turbocharging producing more power from the same cu in. and allowing downsizing. The result is you can get equal power from a smaller mill and mileage equal to or better than the larger naturally aspirated engine. with ethanol (E85) having an octane rating of 113 you can use more boost and higher effective compression - and thus more power per cu in. GM knows ...

JohnWxy replied 3 months, 2 weeks ago
Edited on Tue Sep-15-09 05:46 PM by JohnWxy With higher octane fuel (E85 = 113 octane) You can use higher compression and get more power per cu in. MOre power means more "work". and work is what were interested in. YOu can downsize a supercharged or turbocharged engine and get better mileage than a similar powered naturally aspirated engine of larger size. http://...

Fledermaus replied 3 months, 2 weeks ago
Premium made with ethanol should cost less than regular not more.

 

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Edited on Tue Sep-15-09 05:46 PM by JohnWxy With higher octane fuel (E85 = 113 octane) You can use higher compression and get more power per cu in. MOre power means more "work". and work is what were interested in. YOu can downsize a supercharged or turbocharged engine and get better mileage than a similar powered naturally aspirated engine of larger size. http://ateupwithmotor.com/terms-and-definitions/technol... " a...
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Premium made with ethanol should cost less than regular not more.
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Saabs supercharged SVO engine...
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Wikipedia says, at the moment: "The SVC project was shelved by General Motors, when it took over Saab Automobile, due to cost." A moving cylinder head could be quite an engineering problem. It'd be interesting to know what difference they thought it'd make to manufacturing cost, and reliability.
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Saabs supercharged SVO engine...
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Alcohols have less energy then gasoline and diesel. High performance vehicles, those with high compression or supercharged need higher octane to prevent preignition. The higher octane of E85 will allow the turbocharged engine to run it OK but to get the same performance MPG goes down. There ain't no free lunch!
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Saabs supercharged SVO engine...
Published (2009-09-14 19:36:00)
Edited on Mon Sep-14-09 07:39 PM by Turbineguy (or for that matter superchargers) push more air into an engine, permitting more fuel to be burned. Burning more fuel generates the greater horsepower. Naturally aspirated 4 stroke engines benefit from charging by an increase in volumetric efficiency. This results obviously in more power for a given sized engine. This translates to a smaller engine for a given size power requirement. Turbos are...

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