Ok I'm curious. Suspecting some serious audiophile/sound engineer type humour?
Not understanding the joke though I suppose the chart might be indicating it would be impossible to hear your wife or be heard?
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Originally Posted by gcurrie
Wow. Is the higher frequency response the same? Is it a tiled room? :-)
Bass traps, bass traps, bass traps.
Looks like you have the same echo
Steve.
Walls are double brick, plaster and paint. Floor is carpeted concrete slab and ceilings are painted plasterboard.
High frequencies are less problematic but it's fair to say that overall the room's key issue is that there's a complete imbalance between energy introduced and energy dissipated. Kinda explains why I've found listening in this room at much over -50dB to generate too much sound ...
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Originally Posted by egd
Walls are double brick, plaster and paint. Floor is carpeted concrete slab and ceilings are painted plasterboard.
High frequencies are less problematic but it's fair to say that overall the room's key issue is that there's a complete imbalance between energy introduced and energy dissipated. Kinda ...
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Originally Posted by ccrome2
I'd be careful about adding absorption at the primary reflection points. In fact, that's the one place I wouldn't add absorption (as per Floyd Toole's book 'Loudspeakers and Rooms'.)
Hi Caleb
Thanks for the feedback. Hell, I'm now confused because everything I've read on ...
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Originally Posted by egd
Hi Caleb
Thanks for the feedback. Hell, I'm now confused because everything I've read on the topic to this point would indicate the opposite (unless I've misunderstood what I've read thus far). As an example (hardly an authoritative article, but consistent with other materials I've read ): ...
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Originally Posted by ccrome2
Shoot, I think I have that book, but it's at work. I can't look at it now.
Excerpt from pages 339-340:
" Identification and Treatment of Reflection Points
One method for reducing the levels of the early reflections is to treat the front portion of the room with sound ...
The attached is an indication of the intended number and location of absorption and basstrap installation. Ignore mixing desk and mic, the pic's for illustrative purposes. In my listening room, the wall behind the listening position will only have basstraps installed as there's a wall to wall bookshelf filled with books and other odds providing ample diffusion.
Caleb, based on what you're ...
Quote: Originally Posted by ccrome2 I suspect you have plenty of flutter echo (due to hard, parallel walls) -- it would help to hang some tapestries, add some sofa's, anything soft that will remove energy from the room. Fill your bookshelves with stuff. But... Don't stick absorbers right at the primary reflection points. That would probably damage the timber of the speakers. Thanks Caleb. It seems you're all on the same page -...
Quote: Originally Posted by gcurrie Putting panels on the walls is not a very effective way of correcting a room. You will absorb stuff, but will still have nodes and nulls which will make audio sound less than optimal. Depends on the room and what the problem is. In this room I think the main problem is lack of big windows, creating something akin to a recording booth... The bass just has nowhere to go. There are also a lot of hard,...
Great results! I'm a member of a/v/home theater and recording studio forums, and I see the same type of posts from people who finally (against their initial impulses) invest in room treatment. It's so much more 'fun' to discuss how an upgrade to speaker x or cryogenically-treated cables or processor y will transform your listening experience. But those who treat their room invariably come back as true believers. I...
Ah! Now I see the problem in that room! Everything's hard :-) The bookshelves will all resonate and absorb very little. It's like an echoic chamber in there. I believe Phil is absolutely correct: you don't want to treat your room like a recording studio. Recording studios are specifically to get clean, clear, reflection free sound to the microphone. Reverberation can always be added later as necessary, but it can't ever be...
Ok I'm curious. Suspecting some serious audiophile/sound engineer type humour? Not understanding the joke though I suppose the chart might be indicating it would be impossible to hear your wife or be heard?
Quote: Originally Posted by gcurrie Wow. Is the higher frequency response the same? Is it a tiled room? :-) Bass traps, bass traps, bass traps. Looks like you have the same echo Steve.
There can be a trade-off between frequency response linearity and overall perceived sound quality at the listening position even in well-behaved room. Issues include optimizing toe-in and distance from side and rear walls. There can be some iterative adjustment required bewteen positioning the speakers and the room treatments. The ceiling reflections are often overlooked but may stand out more as the rest of the room improves. One track I use...
For the benefit of those that found this thread interesting or are considering room treatments I've posted a few pictures showing what was done in the room over the weekend and the resulting low frequency response. It's not perfect, but a it is a hell of a big improvement in the acoustics of the room. Treatments applied: 10 absorptive panels (4 acting as corner bass traps) 8 diffusers targeting 700Hz to 3500Hz Further gains can...
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