Hi - we have 50's apartment with original sockets which look old, we would like to replace them with old ones from a savage place. So my questions are - ignoring kitchen and bathroom which will have grounded sockets - do we need to have grounded sockets in the other rooms, or could we have non-grounded? Is there any reason we cannot use old light switches? Or is there some regulatory reasons ...
You might want a pro to have a look at it. In old buildings ground and zero can sometimes be combined. It can cause unexpected results if you're not aware of it.
Mook wrote: clas ohlson sell old-style electrical fittings. Dunno if they're cheaper than salvage though... Sweet. Thanks for this. 20€ vs 34.95 in Bauhaus We cant use the salvage ones, seems its against regulations. We have an electrician, but he advised us to get the plugs ourselves as his place was not the cheapest for those kind of things.....
cressers wrote: We have an electrician, but he advised us to get the plugs ourselves That is surprisingly common in Finland. I prefer a tradesman to source all the materials for a job and I don't understand why many don't do this.
rinso wrote: In old buildings ground and zero can sometimes be combined. It can cause unexpected results if you're not aware of it. Yeah, the electrician who installed a new circuit for our clothes dryer years ago made some kind of mistake with that. Occasionally you'd get a jolt while touching the the dryer or even the bathtub faucet. Fortunately we noticed and got it fixed before ...
And while we are at it: I am desperately looking for sockets that is equipped with some form of switch or circuit breaker or an RCD. Any idea if something like that exists? And if yes, where can I buy those? We have an active 16 month old, an although we've blocked off 99% of them sockets, we still have one or two that he has his eyes set on! The other alternative is to change the sockets to...
Hi! Look for "vikavirtapistorasia", and ask your electrician to install those. If your sockets are installed in a chain, just one is enough to protect all of them.
Hi Hank, Could you please explain what you mean? Do you mean that the "vikavirtapistorasia" would not act as a circuit breaker in case there is a short-circuit, e.g. in case of faulty equipment? Kind regards, Benni
Yes it does, but its not one of those UK system things at all with a switch - and it works only with a real grounded 3-wire system and not in your 1970's funny colors or 2-wire. I have one in my bathroom for the washer thats real 3-wire - any other socket say in the living room it'd be useless. UK ground wiring is all lefthanded anyways, we have "German wiring" here.
Hmm, The proposal does make a little sense though. Although, I am not sure of the regulations in Finland. I was told by the electrician that installed the floor heating that there must a circuit breaker within 10 ft of the circuit. I guess ClasOhlson should also have those RCD thingies for sale? Kind regards.
Mook wrote: clas ohlson sell old-style electrical fittings. Dunno if they're cheaper than salvage though... Sweet. Thanks for this. 20€ vs 34.95 in Bauhaus We cant use the salvage ones, seems its against regulations. We have an electrician, but he advised us to get the plugs ourselves as his place was not the cheapest for those kind of things.....
Yes it does, but its not one of those UK system things at all with a switch - and it works only with a real grounded 3-wire system and not in your 1970's funny colors or 2-wire. I have one in my bathroom for the washer thats real 3-wire - any other socket say in the living room it'd be useless. UK ground wiring is all lefthanded anyways, we have "German wiring" here.
So it's analogous to counting electrons? No matter what they've done along the way, they all have to come back? Just pretending for a moment that it was all direct current (or would an RCD/GFCI fail then?), how is the nature of the return current changed by generating light and heat when it goes through a light bulb?
cressers wrote: We have an electrician, but he advised us to get the plugs ourselves That is surprisingly common in Finland. I prefer a tradesman to source all the materials for a job and I don't understand why many don't do this.
You might want a pro to have a look at it. In old buildings ground and zero can sometimes be combined. It can cause unexpected results if you're not aware of it.
Hi! Look for "vikavirtapistorasia", and ask your electrician to install those. If your sockets are installed in a chain, just one is enough to protect all of them.
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