1- do you use a red dot as stand alone, put dot on target and fire?
2- do you use it with your front sight? put dot just above or right on the top of front sight post?
3- do you use it with your rear sight? center dot in the middle of rear sight?
it seems to me, if you are wanting to do precision target shooting, 100 yrds or more, you will need a dot sight with a max of 2 moa and a ...
Option 1,just put dot on target and squeeze it off ...
I have my Aimpoint in lower 1/3 co-witness config - just deploy my BUIS and lower eye a bit and it puts the dot at the top of the front sight post, centered in the rear sight.
You simply place the dot on target (depending upon range) and press the trigger
As for long range shooting... With practice it is fairly easy to keep shots in the upper chest of a target at 2-300 yards
They are not made for punching tiny groups in paper... They are best used as a defensive optic for close-medium range
I have no problems hitting the target with my Aimpoint at 100 yards...not so much with irons. The dot is used alone, although if you're cowitnessing the dot will be right on the FSP.
ok, so with co-witness, the dot will be sitting on top of the FSP, but you will be actually using your irons. and this would be 1/3 co-withness?
with absolute co-witness, you will be looking through your rear, while using your dot and it will be in line with the front sight?
wayne, are they shipping you out?
Absolute cowitness you're only using the rear sight if it's a fixed rear sight...same with front sight. If they can flip down then don't use them. 1/3 co witness the front sight will be below the dot.
Irons are not required in any way, shape or form to run a red dot.
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Originally Posted by Joeywhat
Absolute cowitness you're only using the rear sight if it's a fixed rear sight...same with front sight. If they can flip down then don't use them. 1/3 co witness the front sight will be below the dot.
Irons are not required in any way, shape or form to run a red dot.
thanks ...
Co-witness depends on the mount you are using for your red dot sight.
A "tall" mount will give you what is called lower 1/3 co-witness. Your dot will be above the tip of your FSP. The FSP will be in the lower third of the optic field of view. Absolute cowitness is where you are using a "low" mount and it will place the dot on the top of the FSP.
The taller mount will let you "see" more since...
I prefer a lower 1/3rd to keep the irons out of my line of sight... I like fixed front sites so if my optic does go TU I can use the dead tube as a large ghost ring and still make shots until I have a chance to flip up my rear
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Originally Posted by Wayneard3413
I prefer a lower 1/3rd to keep the irons out of my line of sight... I like fixed front sites so if my optic does go TU I can use the dead tube as a large ghost ring and still make shots until I have a chance to flip up my rear
This doesnt sound right.
If you want to ...
Quote: Tell that to many Marines and Soldiers then because many of them have this exact setup sans buis. I will... And if one of my Joes show up without a BUIS (especially when I know they are issued one) then they are going to be to owe me As for your test... If my optic dies at 100 yards why wouldn't I just flip up my rear sight? We are talking about a technique that is used under a certain set of circumstances... That said I have out...
Quote: Originally Posted by Wayneard3413 If you do not have a BUIS on a defensive carbine then you are wrong, plain and simple You are relying on that optic to keep your ass alive... Even though I have a ton of faith in my Aimpoint it is still a man made device and it WILL fail at some point If it goes TU at the range while I am shooting paper it is no biggie... If someone is on the other side trying to put leaks in my it is a very different...
1- do you use a red dot as stand alone, put dot on target and fire? 2- do you use it with your front sight? put dot just above or right on the top of front sight post? 3- do you use it with your rear sight? center dot in the middle of rear sight? it seems to me, if you are wanting to do precision target shooting, 100 yrds or more, you will need a dot sight with a max of 2 moa and a magnifier? or would it be best, using a scope with cross hairs...
Quote: Originally Posted by GonzoX Wow, Tell that to many Marines and Soldiers then because many of them have this exact setup sans buis. Ironically they are in harms way and I'm not. BTW, I do have a BUIS. Im just exploring the differance btwn 1/3 and absolute. Why don't we put this to the test. Anybody here have two scopes or two rifles, one absolute one 1/3? If so, do this: Turn off the red dot on both rifles. Now go to the...
Quote: Originally Posted by GonzoX *SNIP* Can we at least agree that absolute cowitness is better than lower 1/3 with regard to accuracy if the dot fails? And there may be a situation that you may have to squeeze a few off beyond 50. Not everyone has a BUIS or even needs one with a absolute co-wit IMO. No, I do not agree. Just lower your eye the fraction of an inch to the same location you would WITH the rear BUIS deployed & your...
I can hit an 8" target at 50 yards with my Aimpoint off (fixed front sight). Haven't tried 100 yards because that's why I have a BUIS... 1/3 cowitness, BTW.
yes you missed something.................. The scope tube "acts" like a big rear sight untill you can flip up your rear sight. Center the front sight post in the middle of the tube as you would with your rear sight. It works.
I use a lower 1/3 co-witness with an Aimpoint. I have the regular front sight and a flip up buis on the back. I use the irons for practice, but I rely on the Aimpoint. I have accurately used mine out to 300 yards - I have not yet had an opportunity to test it past 300 yards. I usually use a different weapon past 300 yards. I have not used the magnifier, but it is interesting to me as long as it was on a mount that flipped to the side or was...
I like the lower 1/3 co-witness. I use ONLY the red dot when aiming. Obviously a BUIS is better than NO BUIS... to not have one is foolish in my opinion. I will not approve the duty use of an AR15 that does not have a mechanical BUIS (when used with an EoTec or Aimpoint, ect). Let's face it... things fail.
i have a flip up front and rear sights so i used a low mount for my reddot. i mostly use just the red dot but the every once and a while i use both or use just irons with the sight turned off just to keep my skills up on irons incase my red dot fails
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