The first newspaper article, published in the NY Tribune, 24 June 1859:
C SOME FACTS THAT SHOULD COME TO LIGHT
To the editor of the N. Y. Tribune.
Sir It is known that the venerable George Washington Parke Custis died some two years ago; and the same papers that announced his death announced also the fact that on his deathbed he liberated his slaves. The will, for some reason, was ...
The second newspaper article, same newspaper, same publication date:
To the editor of the N. Y. Tribune.
Sir: I live one mile from the plantation of George Washington P. Custis, now Col. Lee's, as Custis willed it to Lee. All the slaves on this estate, as I understand, were set free at the death of Custis, but are now held in bondage by Lee. I have inquired concerning the will, but can ...
The testimony of Wesley Norris:
"My name is Wesley Norris; I was born a slave on the plantation of George Parke Custis; after the death of Mr. Custis, Gen. Lee, who had been made executor of the estate, assumed control of the slaves, in number about seventy; it was the general impression among the slaves of Mr. Custis that on his death they should be forever free; in fact this statement had ...
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Originally Posted by Bonny Blue Flag Consider this:
--Lee was a slave owner
--Lee acted within the accepted perameters of a slave owner.
--BBF Acceptable to whom?
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Originally Posted by Bonny Blue Flag Consider this:
--Lee was a slave owner
--Lee acted within the accepted perameters of a slave owner.
--BBF Understand that I don't consider Lee a bad guy whether or not the allegations are true. My purpose is only to try to understand what happened. Lee himself didn't comment on the stories. His wife ...
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Originally Posted by cash Understand that I don't consider Lee a bad guy whether or not the allegations are true. My purpose is only to try to understand what happened. Lee himself didn't comment on the stories. His wife claimed they were fabrications.
Regards,
Cash Not quite true. After the war he wrote to a clergyman in San Francisco and , without...
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Lee acted within the accepted perameters of a slave owner.
True. And the accounts conflict in the details. But there are hard-core who will insist that Lee never owned slaves while Grant did.
Technically, Lee did own slaves ... maybe did at the opening of the war. (I've heard that he got rid of his, although it's a touch hard to believe that his very...
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Originally Posted by prroh Not quite true. After the war he wrote to a clergyman in San Francisco and , without going into detail , said the story was untrue. A recent book, Reading the Man, using peviously unknown letters and searching public records, concluded that the story appears to true but reports of Lee's personal involvement in the floggings were ...
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Originally Posted by ole True. And the accounts conflict in the details. But there are hard-core who will insist that Lee never owned slaves while Grant did.
Technically, Lee did own slaves ... maybe did at the opening of the war. (I've heard that he got rid of his, although it's a touch hard to believe that his very frail wife ran a household without "...
This is from Elizabeth Pryor's _Reading the Man: A Portrait of Robert E. Lee Through His Private Letters._
"Wesley Norris's testament was given to an antislavery newspaper in 1866 and is one of several accounts of this incident. The story created some uncomfortable negative publicity for Robert E. Lee when it first surfaced in 1859 and continued to haunt him after the war. Its veracity ...
Quote: Originally Posted by K Hale Cash, you are one dedicated dude. Kudos! (tips cap) Thank you, ma'am. I can be a bit singleminded and dogged in pursuit of something. Regards, Cash
Quote: Originally Posted by ole Wasn't it Col. Plum in the Library with a candlestick? One rainy afternoon, I helped my then seven or eight year old daughter and her friends set up the Clue board, an overly long task for little hands. In deference to my age, not wisdom, I was allowed to go first and gave almost the same answer as above. Turns out it was correct and the world's shortest Clue game was over, to tears, shouts of...
Quote: Originally Posted by cash I took a trip to the Carroll County Historical Society today. The June 2, 1859 issue of the _Carroll County Democrat_ has a story on page 2 that says: "Four negroes, two men and two women, were arrested near Westminster and committed to jail. They say they are from Fairfax County Va., owned by Robert Lee, Esq." This newspaper came out on a weekly basis, so the capture could have been anywhere...
I'll not cease to be impressed with the scholarship available on this board. Just when I think I have a handle on understanding and interpreting an historical situation, another letter or record is produced. Truly amazing! Thanks guys. (Gals too, but I'm too old to not consider the gals as part of the guys.) Ole And special thanks for maintaining civility.
Quote: Originally Posted by K Hale Right, but it's NOT "their kid," to continue that metaphor. Not until Mary buys him. If Mary thinks the Lees' neighbor mistreats his dogs, and she tells Lee that she wants to buy the dogs, Lee might well say, "They aren't our dogs, we have enough dogs of our own to deal with [whatever reasoning he might come up with], and it's none of our business." So,...
[quote=Pogster;153534] Quote: Originally Posted by K Hale So at what point did Lee stop paying U.S. taxes? quote] Were there Federal property taxes on slaves? No, there was not. Will Posey gives further information concerning federal taxes and when they were implemented in his post #331 above. Lee may have had to pay a State tax or such, but no federal one before 1861, and I doubt there would be a federal tax on slaves. Might be wrong on that...
Tax code can be nuts. Suppoae you are a resident of Ohio and your next door neighbor offers to store your canoe in his barn over the winter. You are living in Texas. He carries it over the fence and state line into his Indiana barn. After 61 days you owe Indiana property tax on the canoe. That's how it is, but you have to dig a little to find it. How on earth you (collectively) expect to grasp the subtleties of 19th century tax code...
"The first United States income tax was imposed in July 1861, at 3% of all incomes over 800 dollars in order to help pay for the war effort in the American Civil War. This tax was repealed and replaced by another income tax in 1862. " Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_tax#United_States
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