Thread: Purely mechanical system to give a continuously variable gear ratio
Started 1 month, 2 weeks ago by Nemesis4
I would have thought this subject would be a FAQ - but apparently not. I have always wondered if an "infinitely variable gear" is possible. I am not referring to any of the currently commercially available CVTs etc. but a constantly engaged, positive drive, all teeth and chains (or whatever) system. I far as I can tell this has been an unsolved problem for at least 500 years. I have found ...
( I recall a positive- drive infinitely variable bicycle transmission, announced maybe 20 years ago in the mechanical fish wrappers. I think it used radially sliding teeth on the crank sprocket, and a regular chain and hub. I don't recall ever seeing one in person. If you want us to download and read something, at least do us the courtesy of providng a link. , )
( Why would it be an FAQ when it rarely comes up. You can write up and post an FAQ yourself if you think it is warranted and worth your time. Mike is correct about the links. This subject has been discussed in detail several times before. A google site search might find it. As far as I am aware VRTs have been around alsost as long as the wheel. The problems are bulk and weight vs load ...
Sorry about the lack of links. This is a very specialised subject and I was hoping for some really specialised comment. We are considering a similar academic exercise to that of BYU. What comment I get may influence whether the study goes ahead or not. http://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/ETD/image/etd1878.pdf http: //contentd m.lib.byu. edu/cgi-bi n/showfile .exe?CISOR OOT=/ETD&a mp;CISOPTR =...
Nemisi4, "fishwrapper" does indeed refer to newspapers usually tabloids. The name derives from the using of newspapers by fish sellers to wrap their products. Pete.
Nemisis4, Napier built an aircraft engine using a series of tapered discs as a variable ratio drive for the supercharger. The engine was either the Sabre or Nomad if I recall correctly. This may provide some leads. Pete.
GregLocock - these are very serious stipulations. I am only interested in mechanisms of this type. Despite many claims to the contrary I don't think it can be done - but it is very difficult to prove a negative etc. Despite many years of interest in the subject I have never seen anything even approaching a solution. It is one of those things that is either done or is not done - there are no "...
However a lot (maybe most?) major advances in engineering start off as academic/theoretical "researchy stuff". sure, major advances require research. Most (nearly all) successful new products, however, are incremental improvements of existing ones, or simple expansions of a product line. The researchy ones have to have a clear & substantial benefit ahead of the research to make the research worth...
( I would think that if you changed from 1:0 ratio to say 10,000:1 ratio, the torque would be extremely high and the speed extremely slow. The torque could indeed break things without any flex in the system, however all systems have some flex. If a drive shaft conecting the transmission to the wheels had some apropriately designed torsion bars built in, so long as the change from 1:0 to 1:1 or whatever was gradual enough the torsion bar would...
The original post wanted to know about "infinitely variable positive drives". By definition, such a device is probably not possible. But let's take a look at what such a device might really imply: Even a very well designed gear or chain drive does not have perfect mechanical efficiency. And modern push belt or traction CVTs can have input-to-output efficiencies that are competitive with...
Nemisis4, Napier built an aircraft engine using a series of tapered discs as a variable ratio drive for the supercharger. The engine was either the Sabre or Nomad if I recall correctly. This may provide some leads. Pete.
Oh yeah... now I remember why I like the continuously... Oh yeah... now I remember why I like the continuously variable transmission in my civic... big thanks to travis for using his truck today. 1:15 PM Jul 18th from twidroid
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