Thread: Psystar Guilty in Violating Apple Copyright & DMCA
Started 1 month, 1 week ago by Terry Olaes
On Friday, Apple won a judgement against Mac-clone maker Psystar for violating Apples copyright and the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA). Check out the BusinessWeek article for more details. Pwnt!
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Judge Alsup sidestepped Psystar's claim that it was protected by the first sale doctrine, which generally gives the buyer of a protected work the...
I don't understand how they violated the DMCA. They're emulating EFI... it's not like they're using hacked kernels or anything.
Can you seek an appeal for a civil trial?
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Originally Posted by dr.stevil
I don't understand how they violated the DMCA. They're emulating EFI... it's not like they're using hacked kernels or anything.
Can you seek an appeal for a civil trial?
Yes, but based on the BW post, I don't think it will matter, because Psystar will be out of ...
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Originally Posted by dr.stevil
I don't understand how they violated the DMCA. They're emulating EFI... it's not like they're using hacked kernels or anything.
Can you seek an appeal for a civil trial?
If they had to do any reverse engineering to figure out how to emulate EFI, then they violated ...
Apple wins! Yep, now everybody has to go back to downloading illegal copies of Mac OSX that Apple receives no money for rather than having Psystar buy legitimate copies of OSX and install it for people.
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Originally Posted by ekierce
If they had to do any reverse engineering to figure out how to emulate EFI, then they violated DMCA which covers reverse engineering as thoroughly as it does breaking encryption, etc.
Also - insofar as appealing a civil trial goes, you certainly can. BUT, there are a lot of...
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Originally Posted by Ualdayan
Apple wins! Yep, now everybody has to go back to downloading illegal copies of Mac OSX that Apple receives no money for rather than having Psystar buy legitimate copies of OSX and install it for people.
You would think that they're at least happy that Psystar bought ...
can't say i'm too surprised by this outcome.. Funny how apple hasn't released their OS to the rest of the x86 world but i'm pretty sure that they know nobody would buy their overpriced hardware any more. I went into an apple store recently and had a great time shit talking on the hardware.. ie talking loudly with my friend how we had better hardware than what they are trying to sell for $3000 ...
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Originally Posted by ekierce
If they had to do any reverse engineering to figure out how to emulate EFI, then they violated DMCA which covers reverse engineering as thoroughly as it does breaking encryption, etc.
Actually, reverse engineering for interoperability *IS* legal. The DMCA doesn't govern ...
Quote: Originally Posted by kllrnohj Actually, reverse engineering for interoperability *IS* legal. The DMCA doesn't govern reverse engineering at all. What the DMCA does say is that it is illegal to bypass any form of DRM or access control. And, as logic would dictate, if you have to reverse engineer that access control or DRM, you are prohibited from doing so by the DMCA.
Quote: Originally Posted by Monkey34 No-one answered his question. I'm not familiar enough with Apple's rules to give a definitive answer......I don't buy, fix, or use their products at all. My guess is that hardware is defined as an apple box with an apple MB. Regardless, I think that Apple would argue that you must have a license for OSX before you can buy another license. And to be clear that means that the original license...
Quote: Originally Posted by 4b5eN+EE Macs are 100% PC compatible. Under the skin they are an intel processor on an intel chipset with regular pc components. Bootcamp is a GUI to partition the HDD safely and install the proper drivers. With a Mac and a blank harddrive, you can put a Windows disc in, boot straight to the disc, and load Windows 100% the same as you could on a PC? I was under the impression something needed to translate the EFI...
Quote: Originally Posted by westrock2000 BTW, does mean I broke the Apple law because I upgraded my Mac with a harddrive and memory that I bought at Fry's? The hardware does not say Apple on it, so that means running OSX on is against the Apple law? No-one answered his question. I'm not familiar enough with Apple's rules to give a definitive answer......I don't buy, fix, or use their products at all.
I don't understand how they violated the DMCA. They're emulating EFI... it's not like they're using hacked kernels or anything. Can you seek an appeal for a civil trial?
Quote: Originally Posted by ol1bit Our couurt system sucks anymore... Err um DCMA sucks donkey balls. Yeah the DMCA is the problem. The job of the courts is simply to enforce the law, and as of now the DMCA is law.
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