Thread: Prosecution may frame you

Quote: Originally Posted by Omphalos The concepts actually are different. The evidence in question is about another wrong-doer. You are confusing the evidence with the parties who are hiding it. Neither of them, the guy who really did it or the prosecutors or police who hid the evidence are witnesses "against" the defendant, and he has no right to "confront" them in his trial. He may only confront them in...

There's also doubt over the impartiality of an all-white jury faced with two black accused.

The concepts actually are different. The evidence in question is about another wrong-doer. You are confusing the evidence with the parties who are hiding it. Neither of them, the guy who really did it or the prosecutors or police who hid the evidence are witnesses "against" the defendant, and he has no right to "confront" them in his trial. He may only confront them in another trial where they are...

Quote: Originally Posted by dustinzgirl IN any case, I really, really think we set ourselves up for a very, very bad world if the prosecution is allowed to hide evidence and not face any penalty. That means that any one of us, at any time, can be accused sent to prison for no reason at all. The current system that only happens to a small percentage . I don't know if I'm misunderstanding what you mean, but the current system gives...

Quote: Originally Posted by The Judge but I can understand the need for the prosecutors to be granted immunity from legal action for whatever they do in respect of bringing cases to trial. So can I and, if I understand it correctly by listening to the audio piece they have with the article, the Supreme Court has supported that at least as far as what the prosecution does during trial but not necessarily conduct during the investigation which...

Drachir made a very good point about Crown Attorneys in Canada and in the UK. They are not elected, and judges are not elected. Crown Attorneys are hired by the Attorney General of the Province, who is elected to the Legislature, and then appointed to that cabinet post by the Premier of the province. If you are a crappy Crown Attorney, then you don't advance and you get fired. If you are a good Crown Attorney, you advance, even though...

The lack of a freestanding right not to be fitted up by the traps or the court is unnecessary, as we already have other means of dealing with these problems. Here (and I suspect in Canada and possibly in the US too), individuals can argue "abuse of process", which covers virtually any judicial or police funny business which has the effect of rendering a fair trial impossible. It is inconceivable that such an argument could...

Incredible indeed. Apart from anything else, isn't perverting the course of justice a crime in Iowa? Shouldn't those found to have conspired to pervert the course of justice be behind bars (and for an appropriately long time)?

Quote: Originally Posted by dustinzgirl Yes but not in 1970's when this trial occurred. Errrr... DG -- I don't mean this to sound facetious, but... where on earth do you get that idea? That is still something of a concern even today, let alone (roughly) thirty years ago. Heck, I remember this being a major point of concern in many parts of the nation at the time, and cause for a lot of (quite justified) appeals (as well, of course,...

Take it from somebody whose been run through the wringer, it can happen without warning and in a blink of an eye your life is changed forever. No matter how egregious the injustice, whether due to malice or incompetence, there are precious few avenues to gain back what's been taken. You can take it up in Civil Court, but that can be incredibly expensive and is always a crap-shoot. I had a $175/hr attorney (ex-cop) and things went very...