Thread: Pelosi Unveils House Health Care Bill

You did not address the point that Democrats (including many progressives) are supporting a bill that you suggest they know is a disaster and therefore would be undermining their political careers. Response? And no response to the links you say you read? Your point that its better to have no bill than this one is short sited. We will NOT have another chance at this- the Republicans are going to win seats in the next election cycle and it will...

and not bring up the health care issue again because Obama "wants to be the last president to deal with it."

......about Canada. Tommy Douglas first proposed single payer in I believe Saskatchewan in the 40's and it was finally adopted in all of Canada in 1971. So even your 37 years is bullshit. "Most" European countries had some form of "government healthcare" by 1950. Truman tried to implement a similar plan in the US in 48 and failed. So yeah, it's been OVER 60 yrs since we SHOULD HAVE HAD some form of government...

instead of just insisting that we need to scream. My entire point is that screaming without doing the necessary homework first is pointless - you repeatedly responded that we need to scream. All I ever suggested was that you needed to read the bill so you are doing informed screaming.

Edited on Thu Oct-29-09 02:16 PM by liberation Let's try to have some minimum level of expectations for what we want as a society. If you take any thing you can get, and all you get is crumbs.... you end up with a pile of stale bread. You most definitively don't end up with a steak dinner.

And Obama will sign whatever lands on his desk and declare victory.

at what is wrong with this bill. I like many here have skimmed the bill and have learned enough to scare me to the boiling point and that is the point at which I start screaming.

Health care SHOULD BE an entitlement. Of course those fuckers don't give a shit. They have their coverage and they don't have to worry about being dumped do they? Assholes every one of those flea bitten blue dogs. They can all go to hell!

only 27 easy to read pages. Especially pages 4-6 (coverage). That will never happen.

from Ft. Hood. Said I would NEVER marry anyone in the military and didn't. He too was an Army brat and we met there when I was 14, but my father had already indoctrinated me into politics at 11. A LIFELONG Democrat when Texas was a Democratic state, I have learned through the years the art of losing gracefully! Not long after moving to Florida because my husband was born in Tampa, even then Florida seemed much more Democratic. I think...