good article. one question I have is, in your first meal after pwo shake (say 1 hour after training) should the carbs be high or low GI? as I'm thinking do you really want another insulin spike 1.5 hours after training (especially as I train late so this will be my last meal of the day with the exception of a caesin protein shake at bed time)?
thanks in advance.
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Originally Posted by Return2Glory ok thanks! as I was thinking. So the only time you ever really gona have hi gi carb is in the post wo shake. Or during your workout...
I dont agree with glycogen replenishment (during the workout) unless you are a cycler (long distance bicycle rider), once you are training, test and GH output are high, you can store large amounts of glycogen in muscle (many grams, even hundreds of grams) as well as the liver (liver about 70 grams), insulin will curb GH release and stop fat burning, unless you are very lean and are glycogen ...
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Originally Posted by hackskii I dont agree with glycogen replenishment (during the workout) unless you are a cycler (long distance bicycle rider), once you are training, test and GH output are high, you can store large amounts of glycogen in muscle (many grams, even hundreds of grams) as well as the liver (liver about 70 grams), insulin will curb GH release and ...
I have a question on PWO carbs. I see the not eon consuming dextrose and maltodextrin but where are these found practically?
Would fructose work also? 500ml of fruit juice woudl supply by 0.8grms per kilo. This would be easier to find and consume for me.
can someone help here please. i know a few guys who have two drinks after they have trained. They seperate the carbs and have those first, then a shower and then the protien in a second drink (about 15 mins later).
is there any credit in doing it this way or is just complicating the issue?
Fructose would refill glycogen stores in the liver first, so that would probably not be my first choice in carbs.
Dextrose can be found in grapejuice and in honey, but I would not buy that from concintrate as this is mostly high fructose corn sweatener.
I would add some protein in that as it helps in spiking. So, grapejuice, protein and creatine would be just fine.
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Originally Posted by leeston can someone help here please. i know a few guys who have two drinks after they have trained. They seperate the carbs and have those first, then a shower and then the protien in a second drink (about 15 mins later).
is there any credit in doing it this way or is just complicating the issue? Lee,that protocol is generally ...
Quote: Originally Posted by leeston can someone help here please. i know a few guys who have two drinks after they have trained. They seperate the carbs and have those first, then a shower and then the protien in a second drink (about 15 mins later). is there any credit in doing it this way or is just complicating the issue? Lee,that protocol is generally applied to WMS due to the absorption rate theory,however,i do know guys who also do it...
Fructose would refill glycogen stores in the liver first, so that would probably not be my first choice in carbs. Dextrose can be found in grapejuice and in honey, but I would not buy that from concintrate as this is mostly high fructose corn sweatener. I would add some protein in that as it helps in spiking. So, grapejuice, protein and creatine would be just fine.
Quote: Originally Posted by Return2Glory ok thanks! as I was thinking. So the only time you ever really gona have hi gi carb is in the post wo shake. Or during your workout...
I have a question on PWO carbs. I see the not eon consuming dextrose and maltodextrin but where are these found practically? Would fructose work also? 500ml of fruit juice woudl supply by 0.8grms per kilo. This would be easier to find and consume for me.
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