Thread: Obama signs hate-crimes bill covering gays - Topix
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Hate crimes violate the equal protection clause of the US Constitution. This is unconstitutional. If you dont like it, change the constitution.
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tww wrote: Hate crimes violate the equal protection clause of the US Constitution. This is unconstitutional. If you dont like it, change the constitution. False. In that one does not need to actually be a member of the demographics mentioned, merely assumed to be, hate crime laws cover each and every person equally. Try reading the actual laws ...
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Hate crimes cover everyone. If someone is trying to terrorize a group of people by committing crimes against them specifically because of one group they identify with, that is a hate crime. Race, religion, gender, ethnicity, sexual orientation, disability, if you commit a crime to target one of these groups, you commit a hate crime. Terrorism will no longer be ...
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Laws against hate are laws against thought, pure and simple. And the "protected classes" in our society will never be considered equal members as long as there exists "protected classes."
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tww wrote: Hate crimes violate the equal protection clause of the US Constitution. This is unconstitutional. If you dont like it, change the constitution. You don't have an orientation?
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Bob the Bilderberg wrote: Laws against hate are laws against thought, pure and simple. And the "protected classes" in our society will never be considered equal members as long as there exists "protected classes." I'm sorry you don't feel you are an equal member of society. Everyone is covered under the hate crime legislation unless you don't have a ...
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Bob the Bilderberg wrote: Laws against hate are laws against thought, pure and simple. False. No one is ever convicted for a thought, an action is required. Bob the Bilderberg wrote: And the "protected classes" in our society will never be considered equal members as long as there exists "protected classes." There are no "protected ...
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They had only wanted to rob Shepard! Ringbearer wrote: Thank you Mr. President for signing the Matthew Shepard Bill. We look forward to further progress in the LGBT communiyt, as well as, the general public. In court the defendants used varying rationales to defend their actions. They attempted to use the gay panic defense, arguing that they were driven to ...
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Pagan and Proud wrote: <quoted text>False. No one is ever convicted for a thought, an action is required. <quoted text>There are no "protected classes", there are groups that are targeted for violence above and beyond the "average" and targeting those people that fit those groups as well as those assumed to be members is a crime of Hate. In that the ...
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Pagan and Proud wrote: <quoted text>False. No one is ever convicted for a thought, an action is required. <quoted text>There are no "protected classes", there are groups that are targeted for violence above and beyond the "average" and targeting those people that fit those groups as well as those assumed to be members is a crime of Hate. In that the ...
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Pagan and Proud wrote: <quoted text>False. No one is ever convicted for a thought, an action is required. Actually he is correct. Sure action is required, but hate is not an action.
Judged: 3 3 3 Alz wrote: <quoted text> Two points: Liberals and the media (same thing) will assume the gay basher is guilty AS SOON AS THEY HEAR that the attacker is a gay basher. To the liberals, the fact that the guy is a gay basher is really the crime. The actual crime will be relegated to being a detail. Second, since treating people unequally is against the Constitution, there shouldn't be any hate crime laws....
Judged: 1 1 1 Bridge Repair Money wrote: <quoted text> Baby Boomers are turning everything into a conspiracy because they did drugs at Woodstock. We are spending way too much tax money on people who like to be paranoid about everything. The only person exhibiting extreme paranoia around here is you, bozo.
rdg1234 wrote: <quoted text> You would have been a card-carrying racist 200 years ago; you'd have been cheering for slavery, too........ More nonsense- Ya see people who oppose gay marriage are in the same company as Rev Jackson and MLK, its a big tent. This is not a skin color problem its a behavioral problem. capiche???
Judged: 2 2 2 Tank Murdoch wrote: <quoted text> geez-that better Your just an admitted homophobe now. brilliant OK, You're up five lies so far. Claim I hate gays which would explain my presence in here defending them...LOL!!) Claim you constitute a 'threat' to me (how and what we don't know) Claim I want to lessen punishment for criminals (???) Claim I don't want zero tolerance for criminals. And you...
Judged: 2 2 2 Actually, I don't know what the hell I was waiting for. Just submitted a detailed report to topix with reference to several posts in this thread. I am feeling harassed and I don't put up with that, ever, in any context on the face of god's green earth. The end.
Judged: 2 2 2 Rose wrote: <quoted text> You are a con dumb who doesn't know the definition of a hate crime. Victims of hate crimes are treated equally. A quick look at the FBI stats will show you that. Can you figure out how to find them? You didn't understand what I said.
Alz wrote: <quoted text> The legal system is based on individuals. If you want to think in terms of minorities, the individual IS the smallest minority. The reason the Constitution is written as such is so individuals are treated fairly. Otherwise, the definitions of hate (in this case) vary based on the whims of some people. The concept of Hate Crimes violate the Constitution and we did not make an Amendment to allow Hate...
Judged: 1 1 1 Fenris wrote: <quoted text> WHY are you still trying to convince everyone you are NOT gay, you Dyslexic, sockpuppet faggus?? Anyone with a shred of grey matter can tell you are a queenbee masquerading as hetero to try and illustrate bipartisan support for your gay agenda. You just lack that tiny aforementioned shred necessary to realize what a jackass you are making of yourself. No one really cares, and your tough...
Judged: 2 1 1 Pagan and Proud wrote: <quoted text>Sometimes yeah I see it in real life. People who throw a fit because they can't return a can of Hunts Tomato Sauce bought at Marsh to Kroger and get a refund(Hey it's the same product, you're both grocery stores, what's the big freakin deal?). Those that bump into a glass door 3 times because they can'f figure out to pull it instead of push. I've...
Judged: 3 2 2 Tank Murdoch wrote: <quoted text> ummmmm Equality, by not valuing peoples lives equally through justice. The penalty is not dependent on the value of the life lost, but, rather, on the type of and motivation for the crime. Hence, the different penalties for manslaughter and first degree murder; in both cases, the victim is dead. Are the victims of first degree murder valued more highly than the victims of...
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