The world has tried patience and ignorance before. It never works. Ever. Maniacal dictators don't turn into fucking Barney because we aid and abet them in their quest to subjugate their own people in order to maintain power. This idiotic agenda of wrist slapping only hurts the Korean citizens being starved and tortured. But then again, the UN and the rest of the world don't seem ...
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Started 7 months ago by Ungoliath
http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0527/p02s16-usfp.htm l
Im shocked no one has posted this. North Korea tested a nuke 2 days ago and has been testing missiles all week. Now they just announced there breaking the ceasefire truce they made with the south after the korean war
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Washington - North Korea may have gone too far with this week's nuclear...
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rant*N*rave replied 7 months ago
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Heuristic replied 7 months ago
Better jaw-jaw than war-war, though.
That said, if this is indeed related to succession issues within the DPRK, I'd be somewhat concerned about their future actions staying within rational boundaries.
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Belisarius replied 7 months ago
This is a little worrisome, but not too much. Call me naive, but I have a little too much faith in common sense (even when it comes to North Korea) to expect the worst. Nor is there any tenable solution to this that is not purely diplomatic; North Korea's ties with China and Russia (as do South Korea's to the U.S.) make it untouchable, while even a mano-a-mano slugfest between North ...
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MyDoorsAreOpen replied 7 months ago
^ True that. The US can count on its standard of living falling precipitously if there's ever a Second Korean War. No matter whose side we took on that one, we would lose many valuable trading partners. And if we didn't get involved at all, we'd lose them all.
That's the real reason we still keep troops in Japan so long after the end of WWII -- we're keeping a menacing presence in ...
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Heuristic replied 7 months ago
I largely agree with you Belisarius, but then the 20th century is fairly rife with wars that shouldn't, from a rationalist perspective, have happened.
In a case where we have an opaque system like the DPRK, where it is difficult to discern the meaning or cause of their actions, and where a succession struggle might skew the expected effect of other countries upon their actions, ...
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MyDoorsAreOpen replied 7 months ago
^ Economically, no. Militarily, yes. If they want the US troops and bases gone so badly, why don't they just tell them to GTFO?
The US protects Japan from a whole bunch of neighbors who have historical reasons to want to kick their ass. We also patronize their businesses for all our nonmilitary high-tech needs. In exchange, all we ask is that we get to use their land as a military ...
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Heuristic replied 7 months ago
Sure, they allow us to post military forces there because it is in their interests to do so.
Being each other's bitches... that's another term for "allies" isn't it?
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Optimus Crime replied 7 months ago
I have a really bad feeling about this situation. Let's hope our country doesn't decide to go to war with them. The Koreans are being very unwise , ever since they carried out that taste the whole world is turning on them. I honestly wish the nuclear bomb was never invented. It has caused so many problems for our species.
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MyDoorsAreOpen replied 7 months ago
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Being each other's bitches... that's another term for "allies" isn't it?
I lol'd at this.
In practice, yes. In attitude and outlook toward each other, a world of difference.
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Belisarius replied 7 months ago
It's worth noting that a strong U.S. presence is in the interest of her neighbors, as well; neither China nor Korea want a militarily-independent Japan.
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