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Thread: Non-Idratek Sensors

Started 1 month, 1 week ago by overcomplicated
Hello all, I hope I'm not asking a question which has been answered before. I have a basic Idratek system, and I'm in the process of expanding it, installing PLH sensors in most rooms. However, there are a couple of places I want to measure temperature and humidity but don't want a module (for example, the bathroom, where I can't find anywhere sensible to place one). So I'm trying ...
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pdwarriner replied 1 month, 1 week ago
Overcomplicated, To measure both humidity and temperature and interface to IDRANet, your simplest and I suspect cheapest option is to use something like a THS module and I am not trying to increase our sales here If the location is the issue, we may be able to offer some alternative ideas on how best to fit one of these units, or as we have done in the past, we may be able to offer a...

Karam replied 1 month, 1 week ago
A little while back the following was suggested as a possible 3rd part humidity sensor: Farnell 1226686. Its not cheap but provides a linearised 0-3V output range so takes the trouble out of the electronic front end that is usually required for such sensors, also had a reasonably convenient mounting. Unless the application requires the kind of high resolution/accuracy of our digital sensors...

overcomplicated replied 1 month ago
Thanks for that Peter and Karam, very helpful. I would be interested in sensors on flying leads actually, and it would be even more interesting if there was a way to do that with modules that have PIR and light capabilities... though I imagine that's far more difficult. There are some spaces where finding an appropriate ceiling location is tricky just from an aesthetic point of view. ...

Karam replied 1 month ago
Aside from it being a bespoking operation, the main problem is housings for such sensors. With regards to wire length it really depends on conditions and nature of the signal. I would recommend shielded cables with shield either tied to the IDRANet cable shield (if used) at the QAI or to 0V at the QAI. You can probably easily get away with a couple of meters and more with shielded cable. ...

overcomplicated replied 1 month ago
Ah, so 10m should be fine then Back briefly to the thermistor if you will - what do I need to look for in a fixed resistor to go with it? As far as enclosures go, I'm just hoping I'll find something random on CPC..

chris_j_hunter replied 1 month ago
looks like doing it with non-Idratek sensors / modules could be expensive - wonder if another option could be to paint the front-plate of the (Idratek) modules to blend-in ? Or even to add some sort of (vented) cover - eg: a light-fitting, the sort that mount directly on a wall or ceiling - something flush-fitting from Argos might do the job & some of them are remarkably inexpensive ! ?

Karam replied 1 month ago
Quote: Originally Posted by overcomplicated Ah, so 10m should be fine then Back briefly to the thermistor if you will - what do I need to look for in a fixed resistor to go with it? As far as enclosures go, I'm just hoping I'll find something random on CPC.. Hmm, 10m not so ideal but you'll probably get...

Kevin replied 1 month ago
As an alternative you could use a Dallas 1-wire network and connect this via xAP into Cortex. 1-wire can run over long distances with multiple sensors. Most of my temperature sensing is done this way. There are both PC applications (free) and small embedded controllers that convert the 1-wire bus to xAP messages. There are some tiny cased 1-wire temp sensors available too (barrel type). ...

 

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overcomplicated
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Non-Idratek Sensors
Published (2009-11-12 00:30:00)
Ah, so 10m should be fine then Back briefly to the thermistor if you will - what do I need to look for in a fixed resistor to go with it? As far as enclosures go, I'm just hoping I'll find something random on CPC..
Karam
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Non-Idratek Sensors
Published (2009-11-13 00:26:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by overcomplicated Ah, so 10m should be fine then Back briefly to the thermistor if you will - what do I need to look for in a fixed resistor to go with it? As far as enclosures go, I'm just hoping I'll find something random on CPC.. Hmm, 10m not so ideal but you'll probably get away with it if you follow the guidelines. If you go for a 47k thermistor then probably a 47k-27k fixed resistor would be a...
pdwarriner
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Non-Idratek Sensors
Published (2009-11-09 23:28:00)
Overcomplicated, To measure both humidity and temperature and interface to IDRANet, your simplest and I suspect cheapest option is to use something like a THS module and I am not trying to increase our sales here If the location is the issue, we may be able to offer some alternative ideas on how best to fit one of these units, or as we have done in the past, we may be able to offer a custom module where the sensing element itself is on a...
chris_j_hunter
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Non-Idratek Sensors
Published (2009-11-12 10:21:00)
looks like doing it with non-Idratek sensors / modules could be expensive - wonder if another option could be to paint the front-plate of the (Idratek) modules to blend-in ? Or even to add some sort of (vented) cover - eg: a light-fitting, the sort that mount directly on a wall or ceiling - something flush-fitting from Argos might do the job & some of them are remarkably inexpensive ! ?
Kevin
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Non-Idratek Sensors
Published (2009-11-14 14:18:00)
As an alternative you could use a Dallas 1-wire network and connect this via xAP into Cortex. 1-wire can run over long distances with multiple sensors. Most of my temperature sensing is done this way. There are both PC applications (free) and small embedded controllers that convert the 1-wire bus to xAP messages. There are some tiny cased 1-wire temp sensors available too (barrel type). You would lose the ability for inbuilt Reflex actions...

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