Thread: No Team Yamaha for 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by mikedabike Bad example. Ducati has been doing this forever. The 1098R is not radically different from the standard 1098. The R is pretty much just a bunch of race spec stuff bolted on the standard 1098. The standard 1098 is 98% as capable as the 1098R. I'm not the biggest road race fan in the world, but it's my understanding that the 1098R has different internals than the 1098, including an extra 100cc of...

Quote: Originally Posted by APLMAN99 I get the gist of this, but the problem with the NASCAR model as compared with MX is that you can't walk down to your local dealer and buy a car that can reasonably be raced off the showroom floor like you can in MX. There are just so many differences in the structure of the sports that I hate to see the idea of copying NASCAR gain much traction. Any MX bike you buy basically shares a frame and...

Quote: Originally Posted by vinnied180 Word on the street is that it's only a matter of time before the rest of the companies drop their factory teams in favor of privately owned factory support teams. This is quite true. With the JGR team having so much success, the Factories are really looking at this "mold" of a team. Once again, we have the NASCAR model in front of us. The structure of JGR is going to be the future...

Quote: Originally Posted by 06yz Yea, because there have been no major changes to the yz450 MAX!!! I didn't mean it like that...Im not a dumb ass, I know the YZ450F is completely different, I ment that during the season they will have the same exact bikes.

Quote: Originally Posted by ncdirtrider249 L&M is a factory Yamaha team. Stewart and Hill will have the same factory bikes that Hepler and Hill had last year, just different graphics. Yea, because there have been no major changes to the yz450 MAX!!!

Quote: Originally Posted by FinchFan394 The suspension is the biggest advantage! You would also need a full machine shop to fabricat many things that the teams make themselves. Like foot pegs clutch levers among other things. . . yeah, but you could pay a suspension company to make you your own factory suspension it would cost you 100k or so but it can be done. James' is for him not for you. factory bikes aren't that our of reach....

Quote: Originally Posted by SMITH201 L&M San Manuel is a complete Factory Yamaha steed with different graphics. JGR has Factory Yamaha motors and suspenders from KYB, but JGR has alot of thier own sponsors that they use along with thier own machined equipment. I would assume it will stay that way with additional support as needed. You can also add Star Racing to the Factory Yamaha full support list. Should be a good team with Stroupe,...

Yamaha out- Full support to 3 teams mentioned. L&M, JGR, Star KTM out- MDK was gonna pickup the tab until they closed thier doors. Not sure what Alessi's and Searle's deal consists of. Suzuki- Factory team and satellite teams outsourced to Yoshimura Honda- Was in doubt until Red Bull fronted some cash Kawi- Same deal as Honda, was in trouble until Monster floated some extra cash.

Quote: Originally Posted by 06yz I don't know how the race thing works but I wouldn't think that JGR or the L&M would care about Yamaha's suspension. I would think the team would get their suspesion from Kayaba and have it redone by whoever their suspension sponser is. Right? MAX!!! The works suspension is from KYB, but KYB gives it to Yamaha, and Yamaha was giving it to support to L&M and JGR, hence why these...

Quote: Originally Posted by KJ790 The works suspension is from KYB, but KYB gives it to Yamaha, and Yamaha was giving it to support to L&M and JGR, hence why these teams had some works Yamaha parts and the works suspension (though JGR did develop a lot of their own stuff). Those teams won't change for the most part. It sounds like they are saying Yamaha will lease its works suspension and bikes to any team for a price now, not...