Thread: Need help figuring out a good non-lead load for 30-06

I agree with you about the age of the equation. It certainly doesn't consider things like BC, or anything related to the shape of the bullet. That MUST have an appreciable effect on gyroscopic stability. Then again, I'm no physics major. The fact that the GMX is a solid does give me more confidence in a 150g bullet. To be frank, I'm really splitting hairs here. I was trying to go higher because I thought I could get more...

FDGB, I can't say I understand the greenhill formula either. After reading up on it, I come to understand it's historic significance, but also understand it's age. Meaning it was developed for CANNONS and they seldom used spire pointed boat tail projectiles. I think the GMX in 165 is purely a magnum bullet. It NEEDS extra twist to stabilize it, or extra velocity in a 1-10 twist. Most everybody knows that you can drop bullet...

fallingdown Let us know how you make out! Bob

Quote: Therefore they don't NEED those relief grooves. snuffy, The name is runningman. Not only do I disagree with you but Hornady also seems to disagree with you! Because Hornady is also using pressures relief grooves on their GMX bullet. Those grooves cut down on unleaded bullets overly long bearing surface reducing pressure and smoothing out pressure spikes. In general I like Nosler bullets.... but their E TIP unleaded bullet with no...

I would sort out the mixed cases and use all of the same brand for accuracy testing. Remington & Winchester cases have different capacity, and the result will be different pressure with identical powder charges. None of the trimming, and OAL measuring you have done, or different powder will make much differance with mixed case brands throwing you a curve ball. rc __________________ If you don't belong to the NRA Don't come...

I'm new to reloading and watching this post with great interest. But what strikes me as odd is your questioning if IMR 4350 is too slow. Seems to be commonly stated IRM 4350 consistantly performs very well for the 30-06 application in 165 and 180 gr. Also, Nosler shows on their web site that the W760 as one of the 3 loadings they had luck with for the 180 grain and the H4350 as one of the 3 loadings they had luck with for the 165 grain.

It's interesting that this thread should appear because only a few weeks ago the laboratory I work for completed a contract for testing a series of what we called "green" bullets, in rifle barrels with different rates of twist. Our findings are the property of the firm for whom we did the work and of course I'm not allowed to divulge the details. (I assume the data will be published eventually however.) I can say...