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Originally Posted by LuxEtVeritas
Firstly, in house studies are meaningless of course, especially without peer review, and then even with peer review they are sketchy unless truly duplicated
Anyway,
If I supplied you with purified avian rFollistatin do you think it is a good idea to inject it?
LMK...because even ...
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Originally Posted by LuxEtVeritas
Uh...hello....
They are absolutely meaningless as they certainly can be faked/falsified as they are promoting a commercial interest and the study was done by those with vested interest
they hold NO water scientifically as stands...meaning they are less a research study at this point...
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Originally Posted by aoba
Just wait until it comes out, i really doubt its gonna sell 1k units before release. Are gains supposed to be seen in under a month? If at all? lol.
Exactly. As far as gains, who knows. If it does what it says it's supposed to do, I don't see much of a reason why you wouldn't ...
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1: Mol Ther. 2007 Jul 3; [Epub ahead of print] Links
Decorin Gene Transfer Promotes Muscle Cell Differentiation and Muscle Regeneration.
Li Y, Li J, Zhu J, Sun B, Branca M, Tang Y, Foster W, Xiao X, Huard J.
We have shown that decorin, a small leucine-rich proteoglycan, can inhibit transforming growth factor (TGF)-beta1 to prevent fibrous scar ...
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Follistatin complexes Myostatin and antagonises Myostatin-mediated inhibition of myogenesis.
Amthor H, Nicholas G, McKinnell I, Kemp CF, Sharma M, Kambadur R, Patel K
Department of Veterinary Basic Sciences, Royal Veterinary College, London NW1 OTU, UK.
Follistatin is known to antagonise the function of several members of the TGF-beta family...
Am I the only one who thinks all this is bad news? For all the people who put there blood, sweat, and tears in to training, and then there is going to be a pill or whatever that will turn someone from skinny to ripped with little or no effort in the future...that pisses me off!!
What do you think?
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Originally Posted by nick912
The CEO of Celldyne Biopharma emailed me this yesterday.
http://www.folstaxan.com/index.html
I recently checked out this link again just to see if they have started to sell folaxastan and it seems that the website is down . . . I guess they had issues getting the money to ...
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Originally Posted by Dr.Dave1
I recently checked out this link again just to see if they have started to sell folaxastan and it seems that the website is down . . . I guess they had issues getting the money to release the product . . .
http://folstaxan.com/catalog/
leptin plays a role in myostatin regulation Quote: PLoS One. 2009 Sep 4;4(9):e6808. Leptin administration favors muscle mass accretion by decreasing FoxO3a and increasing PGC-1alpha in ob/ob mice. S?inz N, Rodr?guez A, Catal?n V, Becerril S, Ram?rez B, G?mez-Ambrosi J, Fr?hbeck G. Absence of leptin has been associated with reduced skeletal muscle mass in leptin-deficient ob/ob mice. The aim of our study was to examine the effect of leptin on...
Quote: Originally Posted by dallasmsl One has to assume that the retailer has figured out that they could be liable for a class action lawsuit if the product did not live up to its claims. . lol. pleeze. with that philosophy there would be practically nothing left for a retailer to sell
Quote: Originally Posted by sl4vik I saw this yesterday as well. http://www.dailytech.com/Article.asp...2&red=y#520464 The article was good but I also loved reading all of the comments. Some were hilarious - others were enlightening.
High protein diet increases Myostatin levels -at least in rats: Int J Sport Nutr Exerc Metab. 2006 Apr;16(2):153-65. Increased myostatin synthesis in rat gastrocnemius muscles under high-protein diet. Nakazato K, Hirose T, Song H. Graduate School of Health and Sport Science, Nippon Sport Science University, Tokyo, Japan. More than 15% dietary protein has reportedly not led to significant muscle hypertrophy in normal growing rats. The aim of...
Quote: Originally Posted by Dr.Dave1 probably related to your age at the time and less likely a result of myostat as those seaweed extracts have not really worked in vivo Could the difference be that the test-subjects were doing excercises, while Rock22 were rather passive, due to his accident? /jon
Quote: Originally Posted by LakeMountD In lab tests, two injections of one mysostatin blocker produced a permanent 50 percent muscle gain in mice. Any idea which myostatin blocker this might have happended to be??
Quote: Originally Posted by seemore well I was just saying the dogs, bulls and boys seem to be fine from a lifetime without the stuff, so how bad could a course of it be? There are differences between inhibition during development and post development. Myostatin plays different roles in each (like everything). Don't make safety judgements based on myo null subjects.
Quote: Originally Posted by dallasmsl The article was good but I also loved reading all of the comments. Some were hilarious - others were enlightening. yeah, for a second there, i thought i was watching X-Men and the whole argument of banning mutants.
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