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Thread: Multi-Enginge Rating vs Multi-Engine Commercial


Started 3 months, 2 weeks ago by futurepilot1
Hey guys(and gals) Question about multi-engine rating vs multi-engine commercial i have been reading over the FAR-AIM The requirements for the rating vs the commercial license are very similar. It seems that if you think ahead when you are getting your ME rating, you could cover alot of the Commercial requirements as well and save time. Is this the case? Or do you have to re-do all the ...
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Brian Z replied 3 months, 2 weeks ago
If I recall the only difference is the steep turns are at 50* for the CMEL and the private add on they are 45*

29.92inHg replied 3 months, 2 weeks ago
The key to this is which rating is your inital for the certificate. Wether it is Private or Commercial, the time requirements spelled out only apply to the first one. After that you just have to pass the checkride. So if you want your multi engine as your initial commercial rating you will have to meet all of the time requirements, and yes you could do some of them when getting a Multi-engine ...

tgrayson replied 3 months, 2 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by futurepilot1 The requirements for the rating vs the commercial license are very similar. I'm a little confused by your question, but if you're talking about the ME private vs a Commercial ME, you need to keep in mind that if you do these ratings as add-ons to your either your private or commercial certificates, as most people do, ...

Planedriver28 replied 3 months, 2 weeks ago
Not sure if this helps, but when I did my multi stuff in 2007, I did the multi private, multi instrument, and multi commercial all in a few days. One checkride. It was a LOT to do in a few days, but very doable. The 'ONE checkride' was the best part.

Brian Z replied 3 months, 2 weeks ago
I was thinking more of the lines of the check ride. If you have your CSEL then you will not have to do the X-Cs for the multi comm

futurepilot1 replied 3 months, 2 weeks ago
That all makes sense. I was just confused. i was under the impression that you HAD to get the private, THEN the instrument, and if your end goal was a ME Commercial you HAD to get your SE Commercial first and that you HAD to get your ME add-on before you could get the ME commercial. From what you are all saying, it sounds like once I get my Private and my instrument, I could go straight to ...

CFIT99 replied 3 months, 2 weeks ago
take a look at the PTS and is describes what you need to complete during your practical test (checkride). It's a whole lot less then the initial comm. I did my CMEL add on after my CSEL The checkride was normal take off climb out normal, steep turns, slow flight, stalls POn/Off, VMC demo, Critical Engine out proc and restart then back to the airport for an ILS to touch n go and then ...

CFIT99 replied 3 months, 2 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by futurepilot1 Another question, does a Commercial ME also let you fly Single Engine planes commercially? Thanks No it's a different rating So if you had that your license will say Commerical multi engine Private Single Engine Schools like ATP do it this way, where you would then instead of getting the Comm Multi added...

futurepilot1 replied 3 months, 2 weeks ago
Sounds to me like the best course of action is to get my Private SE, then my Instrument, then my SE commercial, then add-on my ME commercial. Thanks for the info

CFIT99 replied 3 months, 2 weeks ago
its definitely the cheaper way and the way most of my pilot friends did it.

 

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Multi-Enginge Rating vs...
Published (2009-12-02 16:01:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by PA44-LUV You will need to demonstrate instrument proficiency during your multiengine add-on checkride, in order to receive instrument privileges for the twin. Otherwise you will receive a ME VFR-only restriction until you take an additional checkride to get the restriction lifted. Everyone I know opts for the instrument part on the add-on ride, since it usually just consists of a two-engine and single-engine...
Brian Z
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Published (2010-01-21 11:18:00)
Take a look at 61.129. I would say no IF you have the required 10 hours of training in a complex aircraft. All the other subparts just say "single enginge".
futurepilot1
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Multi-Enginge Rating vs...
Published (2009-12-02 12:15:00)
Hey guys(and gals) Question about multi-engine rating vs multi-engine commercial i have been reading over the FAR-AIM The requirements for the rating vs the commercial license are very similar. It seems that if you think ahead when you are getting your ME rating, you could cover alot of the Commercial requirements as well and save time. Is this the case? Or do you have to re-do all the requiements when you get the commercial license.
Joepilot84
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Multi-Enginge Rating vs...
Published (2010-02-08 05:43:00)
Re: Multi-Enginge Rating vs Multi-Engine Commercial Quote: Originally Posted by Xiph You don't even have to wait to get your instrument. You could do Private-Private Multi-Instrument (in a Multi)-Commercial Multi. The advantage to this would be that all your instrument and commercial training would be loggable as multi PIC, which, if you want to go to the airlines, is useful. You'll also get more total multi time out of it as well....
ComplexHiAv8r
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Multi-Enginge Rating vs...
Published (2010-01-21 09:05:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by Brian Z If it is your initial commercial than yes it has to be in a multi. Thanks, if I was doing CSEL first does it have to be in complex aircraft??
tgrayson
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Multi-Enginge Rating vs...
Published (2009-12-02 16:19:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by drunkenbeagle If I have a Commercial Certificate, Glider, with Private Privileges Instrument Airplane, what does a Comm. Multi add-on involve? I was under the impression it would be the same as any initial Commercial Multi ride with respect to time requirements. Most people add a ME as an additional class rating; you'd be adding an additional category rating and you're right, that's not any...
Planedriver28
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Multi-Enginge Rating vs...
Published (2009-12-02 13:09:00)
Not sure if this helps, but when I did my multi stuff in 2007, I did the multi private, multi instrument, and multi commercial all in a few days. One checkride. It was a LOT to do in a few days, but very doable. The 'ONE checkride' was the best part.
ahw01
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Multi-Enginge Rating vs...
Published (2009-12-02 14:25:00)
It's cheaper to do everything single engine, but aiming for the goal of 1000+ hours of which 100+ are multi, you can argue it's better to get your multi earlier, sure you can still timebuild in a single engine, but you'll end up with more multi time and possibly better flying experience starting the multi earlier - in the end I guess it all evens out, but you have to pay for some multi somewhere along the line. Comm Multi, Inst...
deek
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Multi-Enginge Rating vs...
Published (2009-12-02 15:29:00)
So i'm about to get my Comm single, and have done my instrument and private in a single. I will then do the multi-add on for the comm. Is there a separate rating and checkride for mutli-instrument? Or does the instrument for my private cover both?
KSCessnaDriver
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Published (2009-12-02 15:39:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by CFIT99 No it's a different rating So if you had that your license will say Commerical multi engine Private Single Engine Schools like ATP do it this way, where you would then instead of getting the Comm Multi added on you would get the Comm Single add on. Technically, it would say Commercial: Multi Engine Land, unless of course you pass the MES checkride. Same thing with the single engine land. In theory, you...

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